Reuters: Sony in talks to buy media powerhouse behind 'Elden Ring', sources say

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There's just no motivation to swap for gamers with a massive Steam library.

I could choose not to buy any Sony, Microsoft, or Epic game, and still have a backlog to satisfy me for 3+ years.
Similar to PS. Last year Phil Spencer said, that one reason why they won’t beat PS, is because since the PS4 Gen people have built up their digital libraries.
 

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Lol. Haven’t you learned by now that nothing that MS tries to acquire gets blocked. They bribe Governments around the world, especially the U.S. Whatever MS wants, MS gets.
Yep.
MS is the governments little play thing
Like a parent gives a couple of spankings. When MS want something, they will get most of what they want.




MS and its creator Bill are amongst the dirtiest scumbags lol
 
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I think that this was a good analysis about some of the regulatory hurdles that the acquisition might face (if this goes through).

Highlights from the article + some extra comments from me:

- Kadokawa is Japan's third-largest book publisher by revenue and a pioneer of the media mix strategy that many Japanese entertainment companies use today to develop content across different media categories.

- Three out of four anime properties, in which Sony has accelerated investments, are adapted from other media like manga, light novels, video games, according to an analysis of anime broadcasting data published in 2014.

- Kadokawa is the largest publisher of light novels, serial paperback novels that incorporate anime-style illustrations, capturing 50 percent of that market in 2021.

- The report from Nikkei (the one in Japanese, not the one from Nikkei Asia in English), included this quote from an anime executive: "Many of the major publishers are unlisted companies, and there are many companies both in Japan and abroad that are said to be interested in the listed Kadokawa". That could be one of the reasons for this leak. It could also point out to potential trouble during the regulatory process (third parties opposing the deal).

- Kadokawa and Sony Music subsidiary Aniplex combined invested in about one-third of 321 productions of late-night anime airing in 2022 and 2023, according to a study published at Tokyo's Comic Market 104 in August.

- Kadokawa and Sony's corporate groups combined own ten anime studios, including reliable primary contractors like A-1 Pictures, CloverWorks, Kinema Citrus, and Doga Kobo. Amid an industrywide labor shortage, a consolidated business could lock up a significant portion of anime production capacity for its own properties. This could raise monopsony issues.

- Shares of Bandai Namco fell on the Tokyo Stock Exchange as investors asked whether Sony could make the studio's future titles exclusive to PlayStation. The reaction from Bandai Namco could be interesting because they would also lose the developer of the most successful Dragon Ball game in many years. In 2022 Bandai Namco already said that "the company has to implement measures to safeguard its partnerships and IPs".

- If FROM Software may go exclusive or not could also be fun to watch from a regulatory perspective. During the ABK case, the European Commission analysed the video game market from a genre perspective and Elden Ring was considered an "AAA Role Playing game". Sony wasn't part of the of the main competitors in the genre on a worldwide scale, NetEase, Nexon, Tencent and Embracer had a bigger market share per revenue. The risk of FROM going exclusive could also be interesting if for example a platform holder (Microsoft!) has issues with it.

- Finally, a successful acquisition could also consolidate ownership of the two largest English-language anime news media, Crunchyroll News and Anime News Network. The DOJ was already worried about a potential "anime monopoly" when Sony acquired Crunchyroll.

If this goes ahead, no obstacle seems imposible to address/remedy.

But the regulatory process could provide again lots of good insights about the video game industry as well as the anime and manga sectors (although I'm doubtful about their intervention, the EC and the CMA would provide again a lot of documentation, more than the FTC/DOJ, JFTC, SAMR or other regulators from Asia).
 

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There's just no motivation to swap for gamers with a massive Steam library.

I could choose not to buy any Sony, Microsoft, or Epic game, and still have a backlog to satisfy me for 3+ years.
What do you mean "swap"? They are just PC storefronts, nobody is asking them to trash their gaming PC.

If using a different store on PC is too much of a hassle, then sure keep stanning for a digital store.
 

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That nutcase bot Boomstickxl been begging Lina Khan to come in and stop the acquisition attempt of Sony. Lol. This is the same Lina Khan that Boomstick and other bots were calling evil for trying to stop Microsoft from buying Zenimax and ABK and now they want her to be their "Superman." GTFOH! Also, Lina Khan won't be around for too long with the Trump administration coming in. The FTC will get a new head and that new person is more likely going to be very corporate friendly.
 
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That nutcase bot Boomstickxl been begging Lina Khan to come in and stop the acquisition attempt of Sony. Lol. This is the same Lina Khan that Boomstick and other bots were calling evil for trying to stop Microsoft from buying Zenimax and ABK and now they want her to be their "Superman." GTOH! Also, Lina Khan won't be around for too long with the Trump administration coming in. The FTC will get a new head and that new person is more likely going to be very corporate friendly.
But also Microsoft friendly. If I recall right it was Republican senators sending letters to Japan about Sony's "monopoly"
 

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Mmm. Can't wait for this acquisition to close so that:

  1. Nintendo loses 3rd party developers
  2. Xbox loses access to From titles
  3. PC stans have to wait a year+ for releases AND will be forced to bend the knee and sign up for PSN if they want to play
  4. From Software games are made even better with improved tech and support from Sony studios
I see no downsides and only upsides here
 
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It’s truly baffling how he had no problem with Microsoft’s acquisition of Activision earlier.

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It’s incredible how these guys twist the narrative. When Microsoft makes a move, it’s somehow brilliant, but when Sony does the exact same thing, it’s a crime against gaming. They’ll back anything Microsoft does, no questions asked. The hypocrisy is staggering. It’s almost impressive how they’ve mastered the art of double standards.

they don't really get the big picture Sony doing it to protect Kadokawa from companies like kakeo and tencent from acquiring it and ruining the company and Kadokawa doing it to protect their best interests.
 

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We are all hypocrites when it comes to acquisitions. We all sat here arguing how bad ABK was for gaming while having a Sony acquisition wish list thread going. I'll admit I'm a hypocrite, because Xbox / Microsoft sucks and I'm happy to see anything that damages them

Just more people to laugh at who will be crying if the From Software acquisition happens
 

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We are all hypocrites when it comes to acquisitions. We all sat here arguing how bad ABK was for gaming while having a Sony acquisition wish list thread going. I'll admit I'm a hypocrite, because Xbox / Microsoft sucks and I'm happy to see anything that damages them

Just more people to laugh at who will be crying if the From Software acquisition happens
And ain’t shit wrong with that. We watched Microsoft buy 90% of the western RPG market(BGS, Obsidian, Blizzard) , the most important parts of the shooter market (IW, Treyarch, ID software) and a slew of other random devs (Ninja theory, Compulsion, Arkane)

To see people up and arms over just FROM, Acquire, and Spike? It’s massively hypocritical to sit here and act like many haven’t been encouraging this for 6 years now, and Sonys acquisitions have been literal peanuts compared to MS.

Just look at the massive list of devs that are under MSs umbrella since 2018. It is staggering. Now it’s Sonys turn to make a move and now it’s a problem? And then they cite Sonys remasters and Concord as why they’re horrible and completely glance over all of the great stuff Sony has done over DECADES. But then we give the pass to MS, who hasn’t had good creative management since…. Forever?

Ready for this one to pass and enjoy the salt and tears, the bots that make huge graphics glazing MS for their first party growth for 6 straight years deserve something like this to happen to them.
 
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What do you mean "swap"? They are just PC storefronts, nobody is asking them to trash their gaming PC.

If using a different store on PC is too much of a hassle, then sure keep stanning for a digital store.
I'm not really referring to one specific system, as others have pointed out the same can be said for any digital library.

When I say "swap" I mean having content across multiple digital libraries, requiring you to log into or download from different sources.

It happens that for many their largest digital games library is on Steam, so that's the example I provided.
 

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We are all hypocrites when it comes to acquisitions. We all sat here arguing how bad ABK was for gaming while having a Sony acquisition wish list thread going. I'll admit I'm a hypocrite, because Xbox / Microsoft sucks and I'm happy to see anything that damages them

Just more people to laugh at who will be crying if the From Software acquisition happens
I still think acquisitions are bad but the time to stop these things was during ABK

In a post-ABK world these consolidations are inevitable so you can only hope the good companies end up in good hands.
 

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What do you mean "swap"? They are just PC storefronts, nobody is asking them to trash their gaming PC.
PC is basically Steam. "No Steam, No Buy!".
If they can't get their game on Steam, they will uprise!

There was a discussion once about what would happen if Gabe Newell steped down, and the company might go public or something...
It is all just a cardhouse!

I don't even know why PC Gamers pretend to have a superior platform (outside of piracy, i guess...), when the vast majority of them are basically all tying their libraries to Steam!

Steam is not really different from a Console Library.
I still think acquisitions are bad but the time to stop these things was during ABK
If they cheered for the 70 Billion ABK one, they have no right to be against anything else.
 

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Mmm. Can't wait for this acquisition to close so that:

  1. Nintendo loses 3rd party developers
  2. Xbox loses access to From titles
  3. PC stans have to wait a year+ for releases AND will be forced to bend the knee and sign up for PSN if they want to play
  4. From Software games are made even better with improved tech and support from Sony studios
I see no downsides and only upsides here

Now do a flip!
 
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We are all hypocrites when it comes to acquisitions. We all sat here arguing how bad ABK was for gaming while having a Sony acquisition wish list thread going. I'll admit I'm a hypocrite, because Xbox / Microsoft sucks and I'm happy to see anything that damages them

Just more people to laugh at who will be crying if the From Software acquisition happens
I wasn't really against ABK acquisition because I don't care about majority of their games. Was kinda hoping MS would destroy CoD but thought regulators would block the deal.
And then the regulators allowed MS to buy ABK to my surprise. So fuck them. It's a fair game for Sony to buy something bigger than a noname studio.
 

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I don't even know why PC Gamers pretend to have a superior platform (outside of piracy, i guess...), when the vast majority of them are basically all tying their libraries to Steam!

Steam is not really different from a Console Library.
Like I said, it doesn't have to be Steam, but that happens to be where many people have the largest proportion of their PC libraries, so that's the reality of why some people tend to want game releases on it specifically.

Of course, there are competitors, like GOG and Epic Games, but Steam had the first mover advantage and established a major major competitive foothold because of it.

While there may be some PC gamers who speak with extremist narratives about superiority over consoles, I think many PC gamers, myself included are just kinda lazy and enjoy the convenience of having a centralized digital library.
 
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Maybe Microsoft will buy steam 🤔
Microsoft is more invested in PC gaming than xbox at this point. They must be confident in being able to buy Steam. After the abk deal and regulators doing absolutely nothing, why wouldn't they. Buying Steam is their goal, Phil Spencer said it would be a career defining moment.
 

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Mmm. Can't wait for this acquisition to close so that:

  1. Nintendo loses 3rd party developers
  2. Xbox loses access to From titles
  3. PC stans have to wait a year+ for releases AND will be forced to bend the knee and sign up for PSN if they want to play
  4. From Software games are made even better with improved tech and support from Sony studios
I see no downsides and only upsides here
Fromsoft definitely could use a new engine that's for sure. What engine did Bluepoint used for Demon's Soul Remake? Was it Unreal? Well, whatever it is it ran the game great and the game looks good too. From should switch over to that.