Amazon is partnering up with Xbox to deliver Xbox Cloud Gaming via Fire TV devices
- Thread starter John Elden Ring
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Sony will panic react and put PS Plus on Fire Stick TV in the next 24 months, you can print it
When you flop so hard that you have to partner with a condom delivery service.
Crazy times.
Crazy times.
Sony already had PSnow is their TVs and Samsung’s back in 2014. They removed it later on.
Remember when Samsung TVs were going to sky rocket Xcloud?
Kinda surprising what with Luna continuing to grow; I saw that GOG have a Luna section for some games now. GOG have been pally with Amazon for a while with free games. Amazon's gaming moves have always felt a bit random but they seem happy.
How is this supposed to grow subs? According to that press release, this requires that you already have a GamePass Ultimate subscription. I don't see how this is gonna convince casuals and normies to add another $20 subscription to their lives
It is a good move to be fair but not sure if it will be a success.
Remote cloud play doesn't require a lot of hardware... you just need to display the video output and send the inputs.
It should be good to Firestick if it has full support to all controllers features.
Said that my experience with Firestick is pretty good... it is not like Apple TV but at least it is in a more affordable price.
Plus mine runs everything super fast... something I can't say for others similar devices except Apple TV.
Remote cloud play doesn't require a lot of hardware... you just need to display the video output and send the inputs.
It should be good to Firestick if it has full support to all controllers features.
Said that my experience with Firestick is pretty good... it is not like Apple TV but at least it is in a more affordable price.
Plus mine runs everything super fast... something I can't say for others similar devices except Apple TV.
No matter what cloud gaming hype always come back, it doesn't matter that people show at every opportunity that they don't care about cloud gaming, you can make it available to them for $1 and they still don't care.
People that don't own a console are not going to go buy a gamepad for this.
and they'll put it again because they panic and follow almost every step MS makes, in the Insomniac Leaks they had sliders full of fear about Xbox leapfrogging them (literally looked like an Xbox fanboy slider) and about putting PS Plus on Smart TVs and Fire Stick / Roku like devices, they'll kill their console EXACTLY like Xbox is doing, they have no trust in their own franchises
subscriptions for games will never be the main model, it doesn't even financially work for movies/tv shows, core gamers hate Cloud Gaming and Casuals in the vast majority are inclined to mobile games, Microsoft has invested 100B+ on acquisitions to put content on subscription service that doesn't grow even tho it is already avaliable everywhere and now they're turning completely third party cause they can't convince shareholders to bleed money anymore, that's why Sony should follow Nintendo steps, they're doing all the wrong moves when they literally cannot afford day one releases on subscription services and a dead console model, when their console dies, their business model also dies, and it'll be too late for turning back, PlayStation is already turning into an UNDESIRABLE console, now imagine when Plus is avaliable everywhere with most first party games there...
This a nice initiative.
The jury's out on whether the FireTV sticks have a CPU fast enough to provide a service with adequate latency, and how much the local WiFi's own latency can interfere with gameplay.
I actually own like 3x FireTVs 4K Max myself, that we take on vacations to connect to hotel TVs, as well as to get streaming services on older TVs.
Since I've got Gamepass Ultimate until like september 2025 that I bought for really cheap, I guess I'll try it some day.
All that those slides from 2021 and 2022 are telling me is if Sony launches a similar service to this within the next 12 months, it will have been something that was planned for years and not a reaction to Xbox's plan.
Truth is, for most Europeans and many Asians the internet speeds are more than enough for the 25-50Mbps required to reach 4K60 HDR H265, plus having the kids and wife watching their own streaming services at 4K30 HDR, plus the older kid downloading his new Steam game all at once. Latency and therefore QoS has been a struggle for a while though, but eventually this is getting widespread.
This still isn't going to replace local processing anytime soon. I believe this will be more of an add-on for people who would otherwise get a second console for the kids.
The jury's out on whether the FireTV sticks have a CPU fast enough to provide a service with adequate latency, and how much the local WiFi's own latency can interfere with gameplay.
I actually own like 3x FireTVs 4K Max myself, that we take on vacations to connect to hotel TVs, as well as to get streaming services on older TVs.
Since I've got Gamepass Ultimate until like september 2025 that I bought for really cheap, I guess I'll try it some day.
and they'll put it again because they panic and follow almost every step MS makes, in the Insomniac Leaks they had sliders full of fear about Xbox leapfrogging them (literally looked like an Xbox fanboy slider) and about putting PS Plus on Smart TVs and Fire Stick / Roku like devices, they'll kill their console EXACTLY like Xbox is doing, they have no trust in their own franchises
All that those slides from 2021 and 2022 are telling me is if Sony launches a similar service to this within the next 12 months, it will have been something that was planned for years and not a reaction to Xbox's plan.
Truth is, for most Europeans and many Asians the internet speeds are more than enough for the 25-50Mbps required to reach 4K60 HDR H265, plus having the kids and wife watching their own streaming services at 4K30 HDR, plus the older kid downloading his new Steam game all at once. Latency and therefore QoS has been a struggle for a while though, but eventually this is getting widespread.
This still isn't going to replace local processing anytime soon. I believe this will be more of an add-on for people who would otherwise get a second console for the kids.
it literally was a reaction to Xbox's plans, you can check it on the Insomniac leaks, they were panicking about MS, GamePass and ABK, they show NO TRUST in their own franchises/service/console, the fact the console will not be necessary anymore will basically kill PlayStation overtime, and the only way Cloud can work is through subscriptions due to the insane high costs of these datacenters, so they're basically betting on the wrong model and they'll adapt their players to bet on that future too.
then Sony does the same 1 year from now and he gets clowned just like he got clowned when they started porting games to PC in 2020
You just showed the slides. Not studying the possibility of using popular streaming sticks for cloud gaming would have been stupid. Of course Sony was looking into it and it had nothing to do with Xbox.
The first Cloud Gaming Service was OnLive that launched in 2010, 14 years ago. When OnLive went down in 2015, it's patents and know-how were bought by none other than Sony Computer Entertainment, 9 years ago.
Sony bought the assets of a cloud gaming company 2 years before Gamepass even existed and 4 years before Xbox Cloud was even announced.
Let that sink in.
And then Geforce Now (back then was Nvidia GRID Gaming) launched publicly 9 years ago, after 2 years in beta, so it's been out there for 11 years.
Xbox Cloud service launched in Beta in 2019, 6 years after Nvidia's and 9 years after Onlive's (whose patents and technical expertise, by the way and in case it didn't sink in yet, were bought by Sony).
Oh yes, Sony is totally panicking about... checks notes.. the success of their console business compared to Microsoft's.