Bethesda On Starfield's Big, Empty Planets: Not Every Location "Is Supposed To Be Disney World"

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"The point of the vastness of space is you should feel small. It should feel overwhelming," Cheng said. "Everyone's concerned that empty planets are going to be boring. But when the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there. They certainly weren't bored."

Comparing the moon landing, which was a testament to mankind's ingenuity and courage, to copy-pasted planets in a video game is some next-level spinning. Sometimes it's better not to say anything at all.
 

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I like how theyre leaning in to being incompetent. Makes the X cult that tried to gas light us to believe this would be the game of the generation look even more ridiculous.
 

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i dont think people are expecting a disneyland. but in terms of what makes a game ...a game. there should be some purpose for its gameplay loop. no? hell even mass effect 1 had some planets that were almost entirely empty but you could find something in some basing and expanding its lore in some capacity. i know when i first played it in my second playthrough i ended up checking all of them at some point based on that curiosity. its a scifi game they penned as nasa punk. or people could just watch perseverance stuff.

what a frustrating response by bgs lol
 

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According to Bethesda's managing director Ashley Cheng, Starfield's more barren planets came about from the studio needing to walk a fine line between enjoyment and authenticity. Not every planet "is supposed to be Disney World," Cheng said to the New York Times. The other reason for some of the desolate worlds that you'll encounter is that it helps keep expectations in check, emphasizes the vastness of space, and is designed to make you feel small against this backdrop of the infinite expanse of space.

"The point of the vastness of space is you should feel small. It should feel overwhelming," Cheng said. "Everyone's concerned that empty planets are going to be boring. But when the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there. They certainly weren't bored."
 

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" But when the astronauts went to the moon, there was nothing there. They certainly weren't bored."

They weren't playing a videogame, idiot. A giant empty map with nothing to do in a video game is boring because in videogames you expect to have things to do.
 

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Do they even have 1 planet that's a disney world? What I've seen is that none of it is particularly high quality even in the big city
 
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Isn't this exactly the same thread created by Ethomaz yesterday ? I think some modder should unite the two
 
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It's funny how they want people to look at Starfield in the light of being a simulator for THIS particular point, yet the staunch defenders of the game's honor get massively triggered when it gets compared directly to No Man's Sky, an actual space simulator that does many things better than Starfield.

I mean if anything, this comment from Cheng should be the go-ahead approval to make those comparisons. Or to Star Citizen, for that matter.
 

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Comparing the moon landing, which was a testament to mankind's ingenuity and courage, to copy-pasted planets in a video game is some next-level spinning. Sometimes it's better not to say anything at all.
Also, I bet you the astronauts doing the moon landing didn't fucking use a loading screen to get there.
 

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The main difference, to me, is that astronauts expected there to be nothing on the moon since, y'know, it's the moon. They were the first people to set foot there, so obviously they weren't expecting an amusement park, ala Futurama. When it comes to video games, on the other hand, I don't think it's too much to ask if you expect there to be something to do.
 
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According to Bethesda's managing director Ashley Cheng, Starfield's more barren planets came about from the studio needing to walk a fine line between enjoyment and authenticity. Not every planet "is supposed to be Disney World," Cheng said to the New York Times. The other reason for some of the desolate worlds that you'll encounter is that it helps keep expectations in check, emphasizes the vastness of space, and is designed to make you feel small against this backdrop of the infinite expanse of space.
And easy way to justify and rectify this issue would have been them making some barren planets have elemental / environmental dangers...

Heavier gravity, extreme temps or random weather conditions