CESA Game Industry Report 2024: Japan's PC game revenue triplied in 4 years

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PC gaming is suffering from the slowest death since 1980 give or take. News outlets are keen on killing PC gaming because PC gaming has no owner. With console platforms they can shill and get some money in return.

I find hilarious when people say that these days PC gaming is dying. Guess they didn't game in the mid 00s on PC.
PC gaming is on the biggest resurgence since the dip of 00. It's affordable AF to put a 1080p/1440p ultra machine together. With emulation and steam there's 10's thousands of games to play including every AAA game from Sony and Microsoft.
 
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No, I didn't miss any point. You hate to see Sony releasing their games in other platforms because of tribalism and try to paint it as if they are going to get doomed because of it.

But the reality for the long term is that unlike the Nintendo games, their AAA titles are so fucking expensive, every generation more and more, so in the long term will need to publish them in more places to keep them profitable if they don't want to turn them into a financial suicide.

They see that the console market didn't almost grew in recent decades, and PC offers them a market somewhat similar in size of the console (all consoles, not only their own one) where they have to pay 20-30% of the revenue of the games but in exchange they don't have to worry about the costs of hardware loses, retail copies, managing their own store, etc.

And their recent push is being successful, in 5 years they became a top 10 publisher in Steam history with a few games and their PC revenue highly increases every year. While non of their console metrics gets negatively affected by it, but instead keeps growing in all areas.

And PS isn't losing customers: they have now the biggest active userbase they ever had, and around half of the PS5 sales are to first time PS customers.

Jeez you're getting so mad replying; guess the truth must be a bit irritating for you to hear, huh?

Nothing you said in this response disproved anything either of my posts were speaking about, BTW. So now you've missed the point twice. Oh and remind me when their recent push is successful again once they specify PC games revenue in the next fiscal report vs. lumping it in with other platforms.

Then let's really see how successful it is without a viral sensation like Helldivers 2 around to prop up the numbers. Then we can talk 😏
 
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Jeez you're getting so mad replying; guess the truth must be a bit irritating for you to hear, huh?
I only highlight that the objective and factual data says that your narrative goes totally against the truth. I don't get irritated by fantasies.

Then let's really see how successful it is without a viral sensation like Helldivers 2 around to prop up the numbers. Then we can talk 😏
Don't forget to also not count Destiny 2 The Final Shape, which also performed great. You don't want to count their most successful games because of potatoes.
 
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So based on useless data. Nice. Great astroturfing attempt.
Bullshit.

This is a preview of the 2024 edition of the yearly report of the CESA, the national association of game publishers, like the ESA for USA. This is the only official report in the industry for the Japanese market, made with the first hand sources, the publishers and main retailers/storefrons.

I find hilarious when people say that these days PC gaming is dying.
Pc gaming is dead? How is this possible? I was assured it was dead.
Only some console fanboys say that PC gaming is dying.

PC keeps growing, like console or mobile, and has a size somewhat similar to the console market in the worldwide market. As can be seen in the worldwide gaming market graph of this same report or in all the other serious ones, from proper sources like big publishers, national associations and the main firms like IDC or Newzoo.

There was the "coming back to reality" post covid slowdown in 2021 due to delays etc., but other than that it keeps growing.

Regarding Japan, some people wrongly thinks that the Famitsu sales ranking is representative of the Japanese market. But it isn't because it misses the digital sales and addons revenue from console (which every year represents a bigger percentage of the total game revenue) and obviously misses most PC and mobile game revenue because they were basically all digital.

The Famitsu sales ranking only include physical game sales, this one includes instead both digital and physical game revenue sources.
 
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PC gaming is on the biggest resurgence since the dip of 00. It's affordable AF to put a 1080p/1440p ultra machine together. With emulation and steam there's 10's thousands of games to play including every AAA game from Sony and Microsoft.
Pc has the biggest library, yes. But a lot of people don't want the hassle of drivers, optimising, troubleshooting etc.
 

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Pc has the biggest library, yes. But a lot of people don't want the hassle of drivers, optimising, troubleshooting etc.
It's true! I love PC gaming, but even I recognize the importance of optimizing settings and keeping drivers up to date. Just recently, I had to annoyingly change my display settings every time I launched The Evil Within.

This is just one of the reasons that low cost devices streamlined for gaming, like Playstation, Xbox and Nintendo, will continue to have a market for the foreseeable future.
 

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Pc has the biggest library, yes. But a lot of people don't want the hassle of drivers, optimising, troubleshooting etc.
None existent on pre builds and Steams big picture mode.
It's as easy as installing a game on console, using mods and updating games.
 

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None existent on pre builds and Steams big picture mode.
It's as easy as installing a game on console, using mods and updating games.
I don't entirely disagree. All the same, there are many who still perceive PCs as having configuration overhead. That perception alone is enough to influence some buying decisions.

As someone who has been PC gaming for over two decades, I would say things are easier today than ever before.
 
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I don't entirely disagree. All the same, there are many who still perceive PCs as having configuration overhead. That perception alone is enough to influence some buying decisions.

As someone who has been PC gaming for over two decades, I would say things are easier today than ever before.
That perception is incorrect. Just like saying Linux is an unusable operating system. For all but .05% of usage, Linux is superior to Windows.
 

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None existent on pre builds and Steams big picture mode.
It's as easy as installing a game on console, using mods and updating games.
As a PC gamer: please do not mislead people into thinking you won't ever have to do troubleshooting for games. Like yes most games are going to work fine to mostly fine, but
If you game on PC regularly you are going to run into games that require off site fixes of some kind, or fiddling with the settings to fix some bug, or reading forums to see what the fix for an issue is.
Its not often, but it does happen. I for the life of me couldn't get Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness running on my PC, for example (the remaster I assume will resolve this issue). Granted its a buggy game to begin with but
I'm just saying if you game on PC a lot you will eventually have to troubleshoot something
 

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As a PC gamer: please do not mislead people into thinking you won't ever have to do troubleshooting for games. Like yes most games are going to work fine to mostly fine, but
If you game on PC regularly you are going to run into games that require off site fixes of some kind, or fiddling with the settings to fix some bug, or reading forums to see what the fix for an issue is.
Its not often, but it does happen. I for the life of me couldn't get Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness running on my PC, for example (the remaster I assume will resolve this issue). Granted its a buggy game to begin with but
I'm just saying if you game on PC a lot you will eventually have to troubleshoot something
This is true. It's worth the small conveniences for the amount of games available at your finger tips. A lot of games are shareware and abandonware. Add epics free games, gog and bumble bundle, it's dirt cheap to pc game.
 

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As a PC gamer: please do not mislead people into thinking you won't ever have to do troubleshooting for games. Like yes most games are going to work fine to mostly fine, but
If you game on PC regularly you are going to run into games that require off site fixes of some kind, or fiddling with the settings to fix some bug, or reading forums to see what the fix for an issue is.
Its not often, but it does happen. I for the life of me couldn't get Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness running on my PC, for example (the remaster I assume will resolve this issue). Granted its a buggy game to begin with but
I'm just saying if you game on PC a lot you will eventually have to troubleshoot something
This sums it up pretty good. :)
 

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I don't entirely disagree. All the same, there are many who still perceive PCs as having configuration overhead. That perception alone is enough to influence some buying decisions.

As someone who has been PC gaming for over two decades, I would say things are easier today than ever before.
I know for me it has configuration overhead because I try to get the most out of it on a per game basis. And I like to fuck around and see if I can squeeze a few extra FPS out of it. Or just plain optimizing stuff. That's why I chose PC.

But others want comfort to a certain level or absolute comfort and I can see them turning the PC a blind eye because of it. Even though its not much work and actually fun to do.
 

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I know for me it has configuration overhead because I try to get the most out of it on a per game basis. And I like to fuck around and see if I can squeeze a few extra FPS out of it. Or just plain optimizing stuff. That's why I chose PC.

But others want comfort to a certain level or absolute comfort and I can see them turning the PC a blind eye because of it. Even though its not much work and actually fun to do.
I also like fine tuning my PC for better performance. Though, I did brick my Bluetooth audio connection recently fiddling around too much with my audio drivers. :ROFLMAO: Thankfully, I still have wireless connection to fall back on.
 
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I also like fine tuning my PC for better performance. Though, I did brick my Bluetooth audio connection recently fiddling around too much with my audio drivers. :ROFLMAO: Thankfully, I still have wireless connection to fall back on.
Just delete it from device manager and check the uninstall driver box, reboot and let it auto detect? Had the EXACT thing on a clients laptop recently. :D
 
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Did it work? Alternative is to do the same with Bluetooth items.
Ah, no. I actually tried this first after deleting it. To be more specific, I does "work" but I corrupted or deleted some software controller which automatically swaps the kHZ to a lower range to support audio input.

So, even when I'm not on calls, it locks me into a bad sound quality range, reserving the audio input unnecessarily.

It's not a big deal, because all other devices like controllers and keyboards work normally, and I just swapped to headsets using Wifi connection instead.

I'm considering a 50 series upgrade potentially, so I might be swapping out all my hardware in the near future anyway.

Thank you for your advice!