Cross gen ps4/PS5 games still around. Your thoughts?
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I don’t care what 3rd party developers do, they ain’t pushing the envelope anyway outside of Rockstar
IMO.
Horizon got a better treatment... you can see the roots are on PS4 but Guerillha worked to try to give us something better on PS5.
Sadly not everything is possible... so with the DLC being exclusive they did a even better job.
Ragnarok recycled a lot form the previous game... and the upgrade for PS4 was not in the same level as Horizon.
GoW used to be a graphical showcase of PlayStation but Ragnarok just was not that showcase due it roots on PS4.
I wonder what Santa Monica could do like they did in the past... making the engine exclusive for PS5 and making Ragnarok over it.
I mean Santa Monica was never happy with only better than most "next gen".
They always aimed to be the peak graphics at launch across all platforms (yeap having better graphcis even than PC games).
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There's a few other third parties pushing or making good liking games but yeah as long as first party is pushing I'm happy.
I don’t care what 3rd party developers do, they ain’t pushing the envelope anyway outside of Rockstar
I’ve resigned to the idea that the series s existing pretty much limits what most 3rd party devs are gonna do anyway
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Every gen is a diff excuse. It goes from oh they have to include the switch, to "oh cross gen" and now the Series S. It is what it is and first parties just have to be the breathe of fresh air to push tech.
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1st party wont push the envelope much of they keep offering 4k or 60 FPS modes. To give something worthy of being next gen on a console, they would have to max it out at 1080p 30.
I hate the "idea" of cross-gen. Im the fuck ps3-ps4 cross gen guy from gaf . Bit of depressive life experiences and an autism diagnosis later, and it seems that not being able to "code to the next gen metal" is really one of the least of their worries. I've sort-of 180'ed on it to be honest.
We've seen jap devs in the past complain about "HD development". If that holds true still, a PS4 level/PS4 Pro+ level device still around would give those devs a stop-gap level to reseed the AA level of games that dont have to be 7 year epic developments, whilst Sony pushes others forward with exclusitivity deals so they can code to PS5's metal without having to waste time/resources factoring in ps4, xb, switch or pc ports. Cut a game funding/equipment split and use all of Sony's fancy motion capture studios etc. If not money saved on an exclusitivity deal it'll be the turnaround time the infrastructure setup allows-for without the multiplatform sku's.
Between pc port focus, mobile no-name studio purchases, development issues/game cancellations, half-products released to die, MS and other vultures spending money to own first and then downsizing on workforce after the deed is done, it just seems disingenuous to complain about PS4 cross-gen, at least that's still in their own ecosystem. Hell, PS5 is BC, if they can just get some PS3 games to PS4 workability, they'll also work on PS5 and you offer it to the PS5 and PS4 marketshares, and both must be up there as some of the best etc. I'm still dreaming tech loops around and maybe a mid-gen refresh comes in pro/slim/last gen handheld flavors in future, as streaming isn't reliable enough in my experience.
. Bit of depressive life experiences and an autism diagnosis later, and it seems that not being able to "code to the next gen metal" is really one of the least of their worries. I've sort-of 180'ed on it to be honest.We've seen jap devs in the past complain about "HD development". If that holds true still, a PS4 level/PS4 Pro+ level device still around would give those devs a stop-gap level to reseed the AA level of games that dont have to be 7 year epic developments, whilst Sony pushes others forward with exclusitivity deals so they can code to PS5's metal without having to waste time/resources factoring in ps4, xb, switch or pc ports. Cut a game funding/equipment split and use all of Sony's fancy motion capture studios etc. If not money saved on an exclusitivity deal it'll be the turnaround time the infrastructure setup allows-for without the multiplatform sku's.
Between pc port focus, mobile no-name studio purchases, development issues/game cancellations, half-products released to die, MS and other vultures spending money to own first and then downsizing on workforce after the deed is done, it just seems disingenuous to complain about PS4 cross-gen, at least that's still in their own ecosystem. Hell, PS5 is BC, if they can just get some PS3 games to PS4 workability, they'll also work on PS5 and you offer it to the PS5 and PS4 marketshares, and both must be up there as some of the best etc. I'm still dreaming tech loops around and maybe a mid-gen refresh comes in pro/slim/last gen handheld flavors in future, as streaming isn't reliable enough in my experience.
I'd kill for a PS4 Pro Max with PS5's loading times and WiFi/bt chips. I loath PS5's dashboard and controller, but the load time improvements are no joke.
Given what passes as "next-gen" only games these days I really don't care at all, pretty much all next-gen only games essentially seem to use the extra power to not have to optimize their game properly, they don't do anything too special. An exception is Ratchet & Clank.
and I love 120ish fps way more than anything else the new generation can give us.
That being said, I think real games that uses the extra power of the PS5 to do things that would just not happen on a PS4, or in ways that would not work would be great.
and I love 120ish fps way more than anything else the new generation can give us.
That being said, I think real games that uses the extra power of the PS5 to do things that would just not happen on a PS4, or in ways that would not work would be great.
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Yeah devs barely even have time to come to grips with the hardware they are using now.
Yes, but that goes beyond that. The latest Microsoft releases are just strangely broken at so many levels, you would expect this from ... not a big company that has its reputation on the line.
Three next gen games in the last few months, all arguably looking dated and their dated look is not used to push performance. Forza is especially confusing because it comes from a team that usually delivers a good product, within schedule.
If you don’t expect Microsoft games to have sunken to the depths of where the rest of their software resides, I guess you’re quite the optimist.
Microsoft’s corporate culture guarantees mediocrity. Every head of Xbox before Phill the Shill left the role due to constant clashes with the corporate mothership pushing for cheaper and faster, quality be damned.
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Gamepass effect, we all knew it was coming. I bet my life they limited budgets due to gamepass.