DF: after 1 year of concern trolling the ps5 pro on the cpu. DD2 is no longer considered by them

[akira__]

Df have come back to their senses and have started trolling playstation again.

After all the positive videos, they gave the impression that their ms check bounced. But it seems they signed another check and they are back in the on hate train.

How to make the ps5 pro look bad you ask?

by trying to find edge cases, and intentionally using the console the wrong way. Unpatched games get around 30% procent boost, patched games however can look like next gen remasters dragon dogma 2, ff7 rebirth.

This whole year they scoffed and hated the idea and said the industry wasn't ready for it. And cpu bound games such as dragon dogma 2 wouldn't even hit 40 fps. Fortunately for us they are not deterred by reality and still pushing the cpu narrative. To then being overly excited when actual testing the console, they have come back to their normal programming by taking L's by doubting Mark Cerny. These two recent videos are clear example of copium clinging to straws to explain why the "the most powerful console" isn't needed, or isn't perfect.

Let's look back at when they called dragon dogma 2 cpu limited.

Dragon dogma 2, would only get 40 fps.
Just to think to take such a L and then continue with those narratives and drop dragon dogma 2, after we seen incredible boost to that game. Meaning cpu limited can be boosted and it will be on a case to case basis, depending on the engine, team, dedication, and time.

But here we have it some more pearl clenching videos going forward with the cpu narrative. Time the bookmark these videos and wait until the next L comes around.

Very different from their Xbox videos.
Where they read from a xbox approved script, put on some candles and some nice background music and sweet talk about true 4k, and 3 fps more as absolute game changing.

 

[Entropi]

They’re owned by IGN after all.

 

[akira__]

They’re owned by IGN after all.

True, but this hate relationship is personal. Some of them send in their most beautiful sonic drawing to game magazines after Sega left the console business. They blamed playstation, and then shifted to Xbox.

Now that xbox going the same route, it's not been easy.

 

[Old Gamer]

They’re owned by IGN after all.

They've always been part of the Microsoft propaganda machine. As is most western tech media.

 

[Gediminas]

Df have come back to their senses and have started trolling playstation again.

After all the positive videos, they gave the impression that their ms check bounced. But it seems they signed another check and they are back in the on hate train.

How to make the ps5 pro look bad you ask?

by trying to find edge cases, and intentionally using the console the wrong way. Unpatched games get around 30% procent boost, patched games however can look like next geb remasters dragon dogma 2, ff7 rebirth.

This whole year they scoffed and hated the idea and said the industry wasn't ready for it. And cpu bound games such as dragon dogma 2 wouldn't even hit 40 fps. Fortunately for us they are not deterred by reality and still pushing the cpu narrative. To then being overly excited when actual testing the console, they have come back to their normal programming by taking L's by doubting Mark Cerny. These two recent videos are clear example of copium clinging to straws to explain why the "the most powerful console" isn't needed, or isn't perfect.

Let's look back at when they called dragon dogma 2 cpu limited.

Dragon dogma 2, would only get 40 fps.
Just to think to take such a L and then continue with those narratives and drop dragon dogma 2, after we seen incredible boost to that game. Meaning cpu limited can be boosted and it will be on a case to case basis, depending on the engine, team, dedication, and time.

But here we have it some more pearl clenching videos going forward with the cpu narrative. Time the bookmark these videos and wait until the next L comes around.

Very different from their Xbox videos.
Where they read from a xbox approved script, put on some candles and some nice background music and sweet talk about true 4k, and 3 fps more as absolute game changing.

 

[rofif]

It is popular to hate on the pro. It's all the rage right now.
Everywhere on reddit and on any sites... even on sites covering "how and where to buy pro" you can see 99% of comments:
-stupid, not worth it, made for idiots by idiots, there is no difference, where is muh disc drive! blah blah blah. Just sheep people.

Why? because people are sheep and don't think for themselves. It was the same with forspoken. nobody played it and just looked at memes culture.
PS5 pro is what? 200-250$ more expensive than base ps5? you get 30-45% more raw performance out of it + amazing pssr which rivals dlss when it comes to picture quality. It's a hardware chip solution. Not just a software anti aliasing method.
All of that for 250 more. It's a STEAL if you compare it to graphics cards upgrades.
People are stupid. They don't know what DLSS is, they don't know good picture quality from bad one, fsr2, ghosting, pixelization.. all of that vs dlss/pssr and they wouldn't see the difference. And I am here, seeing HUGE difference. If I was 12, I would kill for such a good image quality.

Also, the thing is dead silent, smaller than ps5 fat and you can replace the drive when it breaks. I think that's a positive.

But people decided to dogpile on it because they are poor and stupid. And Digital Foundry have to listen to popular vote to get the views.
imo

 

[mibu no ookami]

It is popular to hate on the pro. It's all the rage right now.
Everywhere on reddit and on any sites... even on sites covering "how and where to buy pro" you can see 99% of comments:
-stupid, not worth it, made for idiots by idiots, there is no difference, where is muh disc drive! blah blah blah. Just sheep people.

Why? because people are sheep and don't think for themselves. It was the same with forspoken. nobody played it and just looked at memes culture.
PS5 pro is what? 200-250$ more expensive than base ps5? you get 30-45% more raw performance out of it + amazing pssr which rivals dlss when it comes to picture quality. It's a hardware chip solution. Not just a software anti aliasing method.
All of that for 250 more. It's a STEAL if you compare it to graphics cards upgrades.
People are stupid. They don't know what DLSS is, they don't know good picture quality from bad one, fsr2, ghosting, pixelization.. all of that vs dlss/pssr and they wouldn't see the difference. And I am here, seeing HUGE difference. If I was 12, I would kill for such a good image quality.

Also, the thing is dead silent, smaller than ps5 fat and you can replace the drive when it breaks. I think that's a positive.

But people decided to dogpile on it because they are poor and stupid. And Digital Foundry have to listen to popular vote to get the views.
imo

Most people drop a 100 just on upgrading the storage by a terabyte...

If 80% of consumers upgraded their drives, the real price of the PS5 was at minimum 600 dollars, but no one complained because it was optional.

A PS5 Digital is 450, so removing the drive takes you down 50 dollars, but adding the storage takes you back to 550.

Is 150 dollars really that much to ask for better performance? I don't see how anyone could make that argument.

Maybe not worth upgrading for everyone who currently has a PS5 and already expanded their storage, but I would argue the PS5 Pro is the much more sensible purchase for core gamers over the PS5 digital at 450.

Even 200 dollars more over the original digital price or 200 dollars over the price of the disc version (which most people aren't utilizing) is the better buy.

The proposition certainly gets more dicey if you're an existing ps5 owner who wants to use discs and has already upgraded your storage and maybe even your plates. Especially if you have the launch version and you can't reuse the drive or the stand.

 

[rofif]

Most people drop a 100 just on upgrading the storage by a terabyte...

If 80% of consumers upgraded their drives, the real price of the PS5 was at minimum 600 dollars, but no one complained because it was optional.

A PS5 Digital is 450, so removing the drive takes you down 50 dollars, but adding the storage takes you back to 550.

Is 150 dollars really that much to ask for better performance? I don't see how anyone could make that argument.

Maybe not worth upgrading for everyone who currently has a PS5 and already expanded their storage, but I would argue the PS5 Pro is the much more sensible purchase for core gamers over the PS5 digital at 450.

Even 200 dollars more over the original digital price or 200 dollars over the price of the disc version (which most people aren't utilizing) is the better buy.

The proposition certainly gets more dicey if you're an existing ps5 owner who wants to use discs and has already upgraded your storage and maybe even your plates. Especially if you have the launch version and you can't reuse the drive or the stand.

EXACTLY! I completely forgot about 2tb ssd!
The only problem here is that Sony does not sell enough bluray drives and they get scalped

 

[arvfab]

EXACTLY! I completely forgot about 2tb ssd!
The only problem here is that Sony does not sell enough bluray drives and they get scalped

And that they didn't have Pro with disc included, like they sell the Slim. The Slim with Disc is 50 bucks less than buying them separately.

 

[Boswollox]

>game heavily reliant and bottlenecked by CPU
>CPU not upgraded significantly by new hardware
>Haha this cpu intensive game doesn't run better on a CPU that wasn't upgraded

...ok? Thanks DF?

 

[Evilms]

DF's problem is Richard Leadbetter and Alex Battaglia.

 

[Naicore]

At the start of the gen they were happy with Xbox because they got invited to the HQ and got to put together a Series X themselves. Then they were made a PS because they didn't get such an invitation.

Besides the pro, they've also done what they can to tear down the classic releases. Always a problem with filters and images based on their findings. Even going so far as to say PS should contract DF to fix the issues for them.

Reminds me of the portal announcement, so much FUD thrown around. Some people were suddenly concerned about e-waste. And then users got it and were happy with them.

 

[Bryank75]

They have to hustle

 

[Ghaleon]

The CPU 'choices' here were always a concern. It was really pretty ridiculous to upgrade almost everything but that. Just a further reinforcing of the mentality to widespread in modern gaming. CPU should be the most important physical hardware aspect of any gaming platform. With only memory maybe making a claim for the top spot. Instead we are obsessed with how much more shiny we could make games and little else. The worst aspects PC gaming culture leaking into gaming continues to be a disaster.

 

[Gediminas]

The CPU 'choices' here were always a concern. It was really pretty ridiculous to upgrade almost everything but that. Just a further reinforcing of the mentality to widespread in modern gaming. CPU should be the most important physical hardware aspect of any gaming platform. With only memory maybe making a claim for the top spot. Instead we are obsessed with how much more shiny we could make games and little else. The worst aspects PC gaming culture leaking into gaming continues to be a disaster.

Cpu is one of the least important part in gaming rig as 99.999% games aren't using it to the max, so what are you talking about?
RAM also are long lasting piece of hardware.

 

[akira__]

According to Oliver both images are the same, and for love of... don't buy a ps5 pro for it..

We are going to get some more copium delivered soon. As always it will leave you head scratching. The commentary will be full of temporal bespoke flowery language not bound by technical knowhow that is as clear as chatgpt soup of tech words.


If you think my text isn't as nice to Oliver. Remind yourself of the people and teams who worked on it. PS doenst play around if industry isn't positive you could lose your job or project. Look at days gone, the order, etc.

There have already been allot layoffs. So distorting reality to make ps look bad because Sega, xbox something something. Can have real impact on real people.

Let's wait until the full video comes and we'll analyse the analysis to show his clear copium, and remove the green filter from his bespoke analysis.

 

[Gediminas]

According to Oliver both images are the same, and for love of... don't buy a ps5 pro for it..

We are going to get some more copium delivered soon. As always it will leave you head scratching. The commentary will be full of temporal bespoke flowery language not bound by technical knowhow that is as clear as chatgpt soup of tech words.


If you think my text isn't as nice to Oliver. Remind yourself of the people and teams who worked on it. PS doenst play around if industry isn't positive you could lose your job or project. Look at days gone, the order, etc.

There have already been allot layoffs. So distorting reality to make ps look bad because Sega, xbox something something. Can have real impact on real people.

Let's wait until the full video comes and we'll analyse the analysis to show his clear copium, and remove the green filter from his bespoke analysis.

if you look at the video, picture does dishonesty to it. i checked the picture, it looks a bit better enhanced, but on video, it looks why better.

 

[akira__]

if you look at the video, picture does dishonesty to it. i checked the picture, it looks a bit better enhanced, but on video, it looks why better.

This is a real issue for sure. The issue is the same on YouTube which lowers the quality of the image. On top of that I took a screenshot, which then on imgur is downcompressed again. Meaning if we can still see the difference after all those steps it's actually much larger delta.

Bear in mind once again, that it's nice addon feature of the ps5 pro. Yet like the other videos to try to find edge cases.
Can you imagine if thry would openly day don't buy xbox? Two of them openly said it that I know of. It's bizarre.

The video of Oliver will be great, the amount of copium and hopium will issue in another era zeppelins