Digital Foundry - Exclusive - The Last Of Us Part 2 - PS5 Pro PSSR Upgrades Tested

mibu no ookami

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PC fanboys coping. Lol





There's always a tweet.

The PS5 Pro has a lot of people across the industry absolutely shook, including some PS5 fans who can't afford it and feel like they're becoming second class citizens. The problem is if they want to go to PC and get better performance, they have to spend even more and can't afford that either.

We're nearly a month away from a paradigm shift in gaming, not just console gaming.

Because of AMD, consoles had been 6 years behind PC on machine learning, which is pretty wild. As of November 7th, only a sliver of PCMR is going to have a more performative device than the PS5 Pro and will have paid significantly more to get there.

I get the hate, but this is actually a pretty good thing for gaming. PSSR is going to be the backbone of the PS Handheld and the PS6. The hardware race now is to build a better machine learning architecture.

I also think the narrative around the PS5 Pro is going to change drastically when two things happen.

1) The Switch 2 price is announced
2) The PS5 family gets its first price cut (After GTA6 sales wear off)
 

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Only pssr on top of the 1440p performance mode. Great result, but a no frills, no effort enhancement. Why didn’t they deploy the 40%+ more GPU power on extras?

Seems F1 2024 is the launch pro showcase
 
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I'm really impressed with how good PSSR looks, in my opinion it is on the same level as DLSS 3.x with a few advantages and a few disadvantages. I'm definitely not regretting preordering the pro.
 
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Alex is a PC fanboy and always been a PS hater.
Most people have stopped following DF because of this guy, he's almost always biased in his opinions, he's not doing the DF channel any favours.
John, Oliver and even Richard (who has a preference for xbox) are still more measured than him.


Alex is a disgrace to PC gamers.
 

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PC fanboys coping. Lol




The massive inscurity that the PS5 Pro is bringing out in people. Lol. Now clowns are complaining that DF has to do zoom in to point out the differences. Guess what? No shit. Why? Because Digital Foundry ALWAYS USES zoom in for their analysis. They do this for every hardware and they do it with DLSS and FSR analysis too. AI upscaling resolution technique on a console is really triggering some of these imbeciles.
 
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The massive inscurity that the PS5 Pro is bringing out in people. Lol. Now clowns are complaining that DF has to do zoom in to point out the differences. Guess what? No shit. Why? Because Digital Foundry ALWAYS USES zoom in for their analysis. They do this for every hardware and they do it with DLSS and FSR analysis too. AI upscaling resolution technique on a console is really triggering some of these imbeciles.
which is funny because they never had a problem when they had to zoom in 4x on pc vs base ps5 comparisons before.
 

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There's always a tweet.

The PS5 Pro has a lot of people across the industry absolutely shook, including some PS5 fans who can't afford it and feel like they're becoming second class citizens. The problem is if they want to go to PC and get better performance, they have to spend even more and can't afford that either.

We're nearly a month away from a paradigm shift in gaming, not just console gaming.

Because of AMD, consoles had been 6 years behind PC on machine learning, which is pretty wild. As of November 7th, only a sliver of PCMR is going to have a more performative device than the PS5 Pro and will have paid significantly more to get there.

I get the hate, but this is actually a pretty good thing for gaming. PSSR is going to be the backbone of the PS Handheld and the PS6. The hardware race now is to build a better machine learning architecture.

I also think the narrative around the PS5 Pro is going to change drastically when two things happen.

1) The Switch 2 price is announced
2) The PS5 family gets its first price cut (After GTA6 sales wear off)
The massive inscurity that the PS5 Pro is bringing out in people. Lol. Now clowns are complaining that DF has to do zoom in to point out the differences. Guess what? No shit. Why? Because Digital Foundry ALWAYS USES zoom in for their analysis. They do this for every hardware and they do it with DLSS and FSR analysis too. AI upscaling resolution technique on a console is really triggering some of these imbeciles.
They’re bitter because this generation they lost the fps argument. Most games this Gen, at least on PS have a 60fps mode. Now they’re losing AI upscaling as an exclusive feature.
 
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There are...

In movement the image in Pro is a bit more blur and have more breakups.
They talk about it and it is not show in static images.

That essentially the common issue with reconstruction techs.
DLSS do a better job but still has these issues.
currently replaying Cyberpunk 2077 and some movements have awful ghosting with DLSS, I can see a little bit of the same thing going on here.
 

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There are...

In movement the image in Pro is a bit more blur and have more breakups.
They talk about it and it is not show in static images.

That essentially the common issue with reconstruction techs.
DLSS do a better job but still has these issues.
DLSS isnt without faults, but its better then what the PS5 Pro does.
 

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DLSS isnt without faults, but its better then what the PS5 Pro does.
Keeping in mind, PISS is just v1 for now. Expecting improvements over time to reconstruction and even frame gen and ray denoising. The ML block is there, using it will take time
 
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Keeping in mind, PISS is just v1 for now. Expecting improvements over time to reconstruction and even frame gen and ray denoising. The ML block is there, using it will take time
Oh its impressive for a first iteration sure! But that wasnt the point. :)
 

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DLSS isnt without faults, but its better then what the PS5 Pro does.
Looking at the screenshots DLSS does some things better and PSSR does some things better. You can't really ask for more for a v1 of a new tech. PC will still have the advantage of higher base settings in many games, but the gap is closing pretty quickly.
 
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Looking at the screenshots DLSS does some things better and PSSR does some things better. You can't really ask for more for a v1 of a new tech. TOP END 4090/4080 PC's will still have the advantage of higher base settings in many games, but the gap is closing pretty quickly.

FTFY.
 

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Most people have stopped following DF because of this guy, he's almost always biased in his opinions, he's not doing the DF channel any favours.
John, Oliver and even Richard (who has a preference for xbox) are still more measured than him.


Alex is a disgrace to PC gamers.

I agree that DF is awful, but this guy is awful.

He needs to write a script, edit it, and not just go off the cuff. This video is probably 3x longer with how long-winded he is and how much he repeats himself or stumbles on his own words.
 

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Most people have stopped following DF because of this guy, he's almost always biased in his opinions, he's not doing the DF channel any favours.
John, Oliver and even Richard (who has a preference for xbox) are still more measured than him.


Alex is a disgrace to PC gamers.
Yes, Alex Battaglia is probably the least professional and knowledgeable "analyst" in the gaming discourse. He absolutely sucks and they should replace him, there's gotta be someone who can represent pc gamers better.
 
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