Elon Musk x Twitter: The Joke that Keeps Giving

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Elon Musk’s Twitter has been fined with $30 billion in Germany (which is more than Twitter is currently worth) over Twitter’s repeated “systemic failures” to comply with Germany’s “hate speech” laws.


Is he obligated to regulate American company policies to reflect German laws?
 

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Is he obligated to regulate American company policies to reflect German laws?
Yes. Every single company has to abide by the regulations of the countries they want to operate.
Coke is an american company but has to abide to brazilian laws if they want to operate here.
It's the same everywhere.
 
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Is he obligated to regulate American company policies to reflect German laws?
Yes if that company acts globally… so each country it has to follow the country policies.

Where the country was founded doesn’t matter.

It is the same to all companies… Microsoft and Sony for example has to follow the each country policies and in every country they have operations.
 

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what a joke

Twitter is complying with more government demands under Elon Musk​


The company has not refused a single request since Musk took ownership, according to self-reported data.​




A picture of Elon Musk in a black suit.



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By Russell Brandom


27 April 2023


  • Since Musk took ownership, the company has received 971 government demands, and fully complied with 808 of them.
  • Before Musk, Twitter's full compliance rate hovered around 50%; since the takeover, it is over 80%.




It’s been exactly six months since Elon Musk took over Twitter, promising a new era of free speech and independence from political bias. But Twitter’s self-reported data shows that, under Musk, the company has complied with hundreds more government orders for censorship or surveillance — especially in countries such as Turkey and India.

The data, drawn from Twitter’s reports to the Lumen database, shows that between October 27, 2022 and today, Twitter received a total of 971 requests from governments and courts. These requests included orders to remove controversial posts, as well as demands that Twitter produce private data to identify anonymous accounts. Twitter reported that it fully complied in 808 of those requests, and partially complied in 154 other cases. (For nine requests, it did not report any specific response.)
Most alarming, Twitter's self-reports do not show a single request in which the company refused to comply, as it had done several times before the Musk takeover. Twitter rejected three such requests in the six months prior to Musk's takeover, and five in the six months prior to that.
More broadly, the figures show a steep increase in the portion of requests that Twitter complies with in full. In the year before Musk's acquisition, the figure had hovered around 50 percent, in line with the compliance rate reported in the company's final transparency report. After Musk's takeover, the number jumps to 83 percent (808 requests out of a total of 971).
The full dataset used in this reporting is available here.

The orders vary widely in scope and subject, but all involve a government asking Twitter to either remove content or reveal information about a user. In one case from January, India’s information ministry ordered Twitter to take down all posts sharing footage from a BBC documentary on Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Dozens of posts were removed, including one from a local member of parliament.

Turns out Musk is pro government censorship far more than the previous leadership.

Won't bother the supposed "free speech supporters" though.
 

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"Free speech absolutist"

Twitter appeared to limit the reach of investigative news site Bellingcat days after Elon Musk suggested its Texas mall shooter investigation was a 'psyop'​


Pete Syme

May 12, 2023, 7:52 AM EDT








Elon Musk wearing white tie at the Met Gala and Eliot Higgins, the Bellingcat founder, at a press conference.

Elon Musk and Eliot Higgins, the Bellingcat founder. ANGELA WEISS/AFP via Getty Images; Pierre Crom/Getty Images
  • The investigative news website Bellingcat reported on the Texas mall shooter's apparent neo-Nazi beliefs.
  • Right-wing commentators on Twitter suggested that it was fake news, and Elon Musk called it a "psyop."
  • Days later, Bellingcat's founder said its Twitter account no longer appeared in the app's search tool.
 

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More free speech absolutism

It’s censorship if they’re censoring the right.
 

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twitter is being evicted from its boulder office over unpaid rent



Twitter owes three months’ rent to its Boulder landlord, and a judge has signed off on evicting the tech giant from its office there, court documents show.
Since its takeover by Elon Musk, Twitter’s business has more or less fallen into disarray, and there have been numerous reports of unpaid bills. While a contractor going unpaid during a rocky transition is unfortunate but not uncommon, ceasing to pay rent altogether for months suggests Twitter’s operations may be farther gone than anyone expected.
According to court documents and reporting by the Denver Business Journal, Lot 2 SBO LLC, the Chicago-based landlord that owns Twitter’s office at 3401 Bluff St in Boulder, was provided a $968,000 letter of credit back in February of 2020. It has been drawing on this to pay the rent in lieu of ordinary payments (the details of this arrangement are somewhat obscure), but the money ran out in March, and the company has not paid since. (If we assume rent was paid regularly from that sum, that places it at around $27,000 per month, giving a sense of the values involved here.)
In May the landlord took it to court, and on May 31 the judge issued an order that the sheriff should assist in the eviction of Twitter within the next 49 days — i.e. before the end of July. The case number is 2023CV30342 in Boulder District Court.
As many as 300 employees once worked in Twitter’s Boulder offices, but between layoffs, other firings, and resignations, it is probably less than half of that now.
TechCrunch confirmed the legal records cited by the Denver Business Journal, but the Sheriff’s office explained it could not comment on matters until they were concluded. In the course of looking up the case another appeared apparently confirming a separate case in which a cleaning company is seeking $93,504 in unpaid fees from the company.
Twitter did not respond to a request for comment.

 

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Feels like he's doing it intentionally. The fact that he's beholden to the Saudis in this deal is sus af.

There's that theory, yeah, that he got twitter to intentionally tank it. I honestly don't believe it, I do genuinely think he's just a really dumb guy that got lucky because a) he got a better spawn point than virtually all of us and b) he's a master conman and manipulator.
 
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There's that theory, yeah, that he got twitter to intentionally tank it. I honestly don't believe it, I do genuinely think he's just a really dumb guy that got lucky because a) he got a better spawn point than virtually all of us and b) he's a master conman and manipulator.
Why did he suddenly turn into rabid right wing conspiracist as soon as he got a hold of twitter lol