Evolution of Gaming: Consoles used to come with two controllers

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Something we rarely talk about is that almost all consoles used to ship with two controllers.

In the advent of online gaming, I feel like not only are we losing couch co-op for 4 player games, but even 2 player games are dying out. It was rare that games were just one player back in the day, but the new standard is that offline is entirely single player.

It seems this standard changed probably because of the advent of 3D gaming made a lot of 2 player 3D games difficult to make and it was a way to keep the cost of the console down a bit more.
I think the Sega Saturn was the first mainstream system to launch with one controller and I don't really remember anyone making a big deal about it. The PS1 and N64 followed suit.

While not a mainstream console the 3DO only had 1 controller port and required daisy-chaining controllers. The Jaguar also only came with one controller.

We often talk about the price of consoles as adjusted by inflation, but we rarely talk about differing feature sets. We don't get a second controller for example, but what we do get is built-in storage which we didn't get with the disc era games. A PS1 memory card allowed a maximum of 15 slots, and some games took up more than one slot. We also get built-in network capabilities (which we largely take for granted now), both wired and wireless. I believe the PS3 was the first console with both built-in. Maybe Sony should have sold that separately to reduce the price.

You could connect 7 controllers on PS3, but maybe Sony realized no one was ever going to do that and limited the PS4 and 5 to 4 controllers. You could connect two multitaps to a PS1 and 2 and connect up to 8 controllers.

You look at the feature set of the PS3 and you have to think Sony was trying to produce the most feature complete system of all time and it blew up in their face.

One place I hope VR really helps bring back is dedicated accessories for different games. I like that they're trying to bring back the guitars I'm so tempted to buy the PDP Riffmaster (which is was an official controller) and jumping back into Rockband 4. Hate that Epic owns Harmonix and Microsoft Activision (and doing nothing with it).

I think when a lot of people complain about the samey-ness of gaming it's because a lot of these unique experiences haven't carried on into modern gaming. We've lost two player and four player couch co-op, we've lost guitar hero/rockband, we still haven't gotten a new Ace Combat this generation. Games don't take the risks like Steel Battalion, coming out with a controller that you need to use to play it. And honestly this is because games cost too much to make to alienate anyone segment.
 
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Consoles also used to come with a physical medium reader and 1st party exclusives. Progress doesn't always mean "better" and especially, doesn't always mean "consumer-friendly".

Don't derail my thread with more of your garbage.

You couldn't even save your progress in a game on PS1 without a memory card that was not included with the console. It cost 20 dollars for 1 card and most people needed 2. Each memory card cost 20 dollars which adjusted for inflation would be 42 USD today, but you have people complaining about a disc drive that probably more than 70% of gamers aren't using and is sold separately for 80 dollars.

Come to terms with the fact that not everything you dislike is anti-consumer. Just as games being available on more platforms isn't anti-consumer either.
 

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Don't derail my thread with more of your garbage.

Sorry, don't know what you mean, I haven't mentioned your family once.
You couldn't even save your progress in a game on PS1 without a memory card that was not included with the console. It cost 20 dollars for 1 card and most people needed 2. Each memory card cost 20 dollars which adjusted for inflation would be 42 USD today, but you have people complaining about a disc drive that probably more than 70% of gamers aren't using and is sold separately for 80 dollars.

Yes, very anti-consumer to not have memory cards included, but again, a PlayStation issue, you could save on cartridges.

Come to terms with the fact that not everything you dislike is anti-consumer. Just as games being available on more platforms isn't anti-consumer either.

Come to terms with the fact people have differing opinions to yours and leave the forum if you can't cope with it.
 
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Consoles used to come with 2 controllers because couch multiplayer was the only form available.

It's not because of cutting costs or bang for buck. The above is the reason why you get 1 controller these days. The internet exists.
 
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Refute arguments without insulting each other. That reply was in context with the thread topic, no need to exchange insults over it.

Context matters. Poster is a doomer and what trying to make this a doomer thread about ps5 pro and sony.

Consoles used to come with 2 controllers because couch multiplayer was the only form available.

It's not because of cutting costs or bang for buck. The above is the reason why you get 1 controller these days. The internet exists.

Going to 1 controller had nothing to do with the internet. It was because 3D games were rarely 2 player co-op. Read the OP. Internet based consoles didn't become a thing until well after the move to launching systems with 1 controller. This started in 1994. The first popularly online console was the Xbox which didn't launch until 2001.
 

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Context matters. Poster is a doomer and what trying to make this a doomer thread about ps5 pro and sony.

You are crazy, bet you hear voices when you are alone.

Can we unban @JAHGamer so that this dude leaves again? He is clearly not capable of having a discussion if not with himself, like he usually does.
 
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Controllers were also like under 40 bucks with a large variety of third party options. I remember a variety of console bundles tbh.
 

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PlayStation and Xbox release more custom controllers than actual games ask yourself why.

The death of couch co-op has nothing to do with one controller coming in the box now. Just like how base PS5 came with a stand and disc drive and now you have to buy one with the Pro.

It's simple economics of passing off more costs unto the consumers.
 

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Context matters. Poster is a doomer and what trying to make this a doomer thread about ps5 pro and sony.



Going to 1 controller had nothing to do with the internet. It was because 3D games were rarely 2 player co-op. Read the OP. Internet based consoles didn't become a thing until well after the move to launching systems with 1 controller. This started in 1994. The first popularly online console was the Xbox which didn't launch until 2001.
I think the point went a bit over your head.. That's ok though.
 
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