That makes on sense. People in your ecosystem not only buy games from you, they also pay for subscriptions, which rake in a crapload of money.
For the first time PlayStation Trophies will be available on PC.
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That is a bit illogical, no?
The money from PC Store and PS Store should be the same (since the games are priced the same).
The hardware is an additional profit to Sony with PS5 something they don't get on PC.
Plus there are others revenue from PS5 Store that are not available for PC (yet).
In simples terms as platform PS5 will be always more profitable than PC to Sony.
With PS5 Sony profits with hardware and software.
PC they can at best profit with software.
Plus he forget that PS5 (excluding DE that Sony barely produce yet) is profitable by itself.
You have two fronts of revenue on PS5.
While on PC you have only one.
They are not comparable.
They better have a way to monetize that launcher/storefront on PC to make up for the potential drop in console sales, 3P sales cuts & sub revenue console-side. Software purchases alone will barely cover the drop of the other three when talking PC.
But these are Sony's logistics to figure out, at the end of the day. Anyway, I'm getting ready for the Nintendo Indie World event.
How does this work out when we already have Steam data showing they buy less B2P games and spend less in games revenue than PS console owners (and definitely PS & Nintendo owners combined)?
The costs of not buying a console doesn't automatically transfer to savings applied to buying more games or spending more on games. It just means one less console unit sold. And yeah they can sell more peripherals to make up for it but they would now have to compete with the sea of 3P peripherals on PC side AND deal with less total peripheral sales on PS console side since they're selling less consoles (specifically among the high ARPU hardcore/core enthusiasts who spend the most on peripherals to begin with).
I think this whole "PC is growing" is about to become the new "game subscriptions are the future" and if Sony foolishly dump into it like they did their overzealous GAAS initiative, they aren't going to have room to fix things a second time around. SOME investment into the PC market is okay but not at the expense of your own console; the failures of Xbox the past few years should show this clearly and ALSO show that it takes a while before the full ramifications of earlier bad actions take definitive hold.
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Drop in console sales?
Except for some gamers that doesn't even play on PlayStation anymore I don't see that move to PC from PS gamers at all.
Maybe that will affect these that today play on PC and PS5 but these are very few hardcore imo.
Most PS users doesn't even care about PC to have a effective impact in console sales.
Just look at the PlayStation game sales on PC... it is a fraction of PS5 games sales.
Will they have the balls to charge $70 for old games on PC?
I think they will have price parity with PS Store on console.
Old games on PS Store have discounts too.
God of War for example is $29.90.
The Last of Us Part II is $39.90 (the remastered version is $49.90).
That not including Fire/Flash sales... for example I already saw in the past TLOU2 being sold below $20 on PS Store.
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I know. I wish Macs were better supported for gaming in general. I will just keep wishing, even though it won't happen.
@mibu no ookami has a talent of being wrong about almost everything. The money for PlayStation was never in 1st party games....ever. 1st party is to help sell consoles, and then make money from everything else.
Nintendo will go pc too soon
The big tech are pushing for a digital world digital currency aka a cyberpunk world
Get ready for the artificial intelligence age
Yeap... I don't believe that will happen.
Linux never got strong support too... not at really commercial level.
What Valve did with Steam Deck is create a layer of emulation to runs Windows games.
Controversial or not... what Valve did just decrease the support in make games for Linux for example.
With that Valve basically killed the chance any developer think on Linux when creating games.
Valve Steam Deck was probably the last knife in the Linux support for games.
Edit - The controversial is because I know some here and in the internet thinks that what Valve did was to help to Linux be a viable platform to play games but that is just bullshit to cover the real issue... Proton just helped developers to never think about Linux as a game platform.
Developers will only think about Windows games and don't care if the "community" find a way or not to run their Windows games on Linux
.That is not supporting a platform.
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Yep; unless they state and start showing otherwise, I have little reason to believe PlayStation isn't following the same path as Xbox at this point which, like Xbox, will ultimately make the console irrelevant well before its time for irrelevancy would have naturally kicked in.
It's why I haven't been too enthused with the PS5 Pro; even though I can make fun of DF for trying to downplay it simply because there's not Xbox Series Pro this gen, but at the same time...what is the point for a player when so many of the games that would've been great additions to show off the boosted abilities of a Pro, are already on PC well before the Pro launches?
Like, I am still intrigued with technologies related to the Pro, like PSSR, but aspects related to its value within the customer market can easily be questioned considering how Sony's PC porting strategy has been playing out this generation.
Nah Nintendo are fully invested in their own hardware for a long, long time to come. We probably won't even see a PC port from them until near the end of next decade at earliest, and it'd just be something like a collection of old NES/SNES Mario ROMs with enhancements
I do agree though that Big Tech are pushing for a digital world and all that type of stuff...cases like Ubisoft aren't going to be the exception, either: they'll become the norm.
you might view it this way, but most people will wait instead of spending 500 dollars to play games they'll have access to anyway
at this point i'm just hoping for a Launcher that carries at least part of my digital library, so it will be more easy to make the transition to PC
If that is implemented someday it will only works for games that were already released on PC via PlayStation publishing.
Less than 0.01% of PS library.
This is loads of crap.
PS5 profitable, so they would lose ton of money not selling consoles. They would loose even more without PS+. Peripherals also would sell much less because it is wide variety on PC and k&m are dominant on PC.
It all sells because console exist.
They also include other spaces into gaming.
It helps their audio department, that also helps to sell TVs which is big business for them too.
As I said Sony heading the wrong direction.
I always said Sony can do better expansion & bring better positive revenue & profits w 0 negative effect Nintendo understand this they’ve got mobile developers to bring there games to there platform/storefront making these mobile games play best on the Switch compared to ion & android. Nintendo again bending the knees of mobile gamers to getting there console to play the better version of these mobile w better controls. PS should’ve done the same get Supercell games launch on PS simultaneously get PUBG mobile on PS. This is positive growth positive profit zero negative effect porting games negatively effect & kills off your platform & storefront
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And everyone else returned to Steam. Rockstar, EA, Bethesda, MS.
A PC launcher with exclusive games will kill sales on PC.
Feels like there is no chance I'll end up buying a PS6 at this rate. Not that I care about trophies, it's about all the effort Sony puts towards PC for little to no return while not giving a shit about things that PlayStation fans have requested for a long time.
PC + Switch Successor seems like the best combo going forward.
With PC you get freedom to chose how you want the game to run, free online, Steam, services like Gamepass (that you can easily exploit), far superior retro compatibility, choice of input device, etc.
With the Switch successor you get portability, physical media and Nintendo exclusives.
PlayStation is becoming as essential to own as an Xbox.
PC + Switch Successor seems like the best combo going forward.
With PC you get freedom to chose how you want the game to run, free online, Steam, services like Gamepass (that you can easily exploit), far superior retro compatibility, choice of input device, etc.
With the Switch successor you get portability, physical media and Nintendo exclusives.
PlayStation is becoming as essential to own as an Xbox.
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Tbh I can't blame Sony for wanting to cut the middle man. I wouldn't mind a new launcher
There's plenty of them already on PC.
The thing is... they have to do it right. And this is where I don't trust Sony enough. It should have social features and a review system on par with steam, as well as similar refund policies.
They are getting closer to the critical mass of games required to support a store. Once they have 25 games or more on PC, they should launch it and make all future games, store exclusives.
But this move should be marketed properly. With big profile releases as exclusives such as Bloodborne, Demons souls, Gran Turismo or Destiny 3. Otherwise it won't work. Players need strong incentives to leave Steam.
Yes, but way more people will prefer to buy a $500 hardware to play them day one instead of a way more expensive hardware with not the same plug and play experience where they'll have to wait some years to play them on similar conditions minimum a couple years later.
This is a 3rd party time limited console exclusive. Every year/generation PS has way more 3rd party limited console exclusives and total 3rd party exclusives. And way more important than a TMNT game made by a mobile gaming developer which won't almost sell on Switch because sales on that platform are way too focused on 1st party games.
I mean, Sony had recently FFVII Rebirth or Granblue Fantasy Relink. And have games like Genshin Impact, Honkai Star Rail and the upcoming Zenless Zone Zero. Regarding PUBG, PS has the normal one.
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