Forbes : Microsoft’s Xbox Series S Parity Demands Are Now Handing Sony Free Wins

[alphachino]

Remember the amount of fud on series s on the other site

Yeah, as a Sony fan, I don't know why I bothered to argue against the merits of the XSS. It's probably the best thing ever for Xbox to have done for a PlayStation fan. Should have been cheering it on!

 

[historia]

personally i dont think xbox should continue existing. they've made too many blunders and are rightly being rejected by players. I agree their formerly hit franchises are fading fast. on the other hand, MS willingly paid 70B for activision, so clearly they intend to plow ahead. most likely they're just going to keep on with the 2-unit approach. but at this point i'd say the X is a bigger liability than the S. ms can't even make enough X's because they lose money. so a cost-cutting redesign would be a high priority, but they've actually increased the cost of the S so the value proposition gets muddy if they don't maintain a decent price difference

It's pretty easy, just don't sell Xbox hardwares and release games on PS5, price your services at decent costs and stop putting big releases on Game Pass day one.

Selling your hardwares at a loss up to 100-200 USD 3 years in is ridiculous, what even worse is taking losses on your subcription, we know why they don't report the division revenue seperately.
It's not hard to figure it out.

 

[flaccidsnake]

It's pretty easy, just don't sell Xbox hardwares and release games on PS5, price your services at decent costs and stop putting big releases on Game Pass day one.

Selling your hardwares at a loss up to 100-200 USD 3 years in is ridiculous, what even worse is taking losses on your subcription, we know why they don't report the division revenue seperately.
It's not hard to figure it out.

I don't have any problem with this, but I don't see the strategic value to Microsoft Corporation to essentially be a videogame publisher. Any big conglomerate just wants to make money however they can, but there's still some idea of competitive advantage, core-competency, etc. None of MS's corporate peers (Amazon, Google, Apple) are trying very hard to be game publishers. Google gave up in less than 2 years. Videogames seem like small potatoes compared to cloud services, OS monopoly, endless b2b 'solutions', etc. If I was running MS I'd be too busy trying to destroy Google docs and MacOS to care about what Sony is up to. Sony's 1/25 the size.

 

[historia]

I don't have any problem with this, but I don't see the strategic value to Microsoft Corporation to essentially be a videogame publisher. Any big conglomerate just wants to make money however they can, but there's still some idea of competitive advantage, core-competency, etc. None of MS's corporate peers (Amazon, Google, Apple) are trying very hard to be game publishers. Google gave up in less than 2 years. Videogames seem like small potatoes compared to cloud services, OS monopoly, endless b2b 'solutions', etc. If I was running MS I'd be too busy trying to destroy Google docs and MacOS to care about what Sony is up to. Sony's 1/25 the size.

They already have a monopoly at that sector, it is about setting monopoly at other sectors too.

In the end, is MS in the nutshell, they always want to be on the top of the foodchain. Their EEE strategy worked in the 90s, nowadays they tried to force their ways into the business they still clueless despite being in for a really long time already.


They deserves being broken into small pieces honestly.

 

[Zzero]

I can imagine it, because Nintendo did it for the last 3 generations with a lot more success than Microsoft. With the stable of IP that MS currently owns, they shouldn't have so much trouble driving customers to their box, particularly if it's < $299. And they can still support PC for the high end customer.

Nintendo tries to and usually succedes in releasing a "good"/"big" game every quarter. Microsoft has struggled to do two a year. And this is a leftover from the One era so its not Series X's fault.

 

[AngryRobotBees]

personally i dont think xbox should continue existing. they've made too many blunders and are rightly being rejected by players. I agree their formerly hit franchises are fading fast. on the other hand, MS willingly paid 70B for activision, so clearly they intend to plow ahead. most likely they're just going to keep on with the 2-unit approach. but at this point i'd say the X is a bigger liability than the S. ms can't even make enough X's because they lose money. so a cost-cutting redesign would be a high priority, but they've actually increased the cost of the S so the value proposition gets muddy if they don't maintain a decent price difference

I'm pretty sure that xbox has been told to get their margins up. Hence the new more expensive series s, the series x you can only buy with a bundle, gamepass price increase etc

 

[Ezekiel]

I don't get why they don't just drop the parity for some functionality, like local co-op.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing parity.

There's already a bunch of graphical features missing on the baby console, like no 60fps modes, no RT, less detail, etc.

 

[FatKaz]

I don't get why they don't just drop the parity for some functionality, like local co-op.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing parity.

There's already a bunch of graphical features missing on the baby console, like no 60fps modes, no RT, less detail, etc.

Pride and it would be them admitting that their strategy for a weaker and cheaper console was a bad move.

 

[anonpuffs]

I don't get why they don't just drop the parity for some functionality, like local co-op.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing parity.

There's already a bunch of graphical features missing on the baby console, like no 60fps modes, no RT, less detail, etc.

Because the Series S is the majority of their customer base.

Imagine you owned a Series S and you bought it on the presumption that your console is just the series X but just lower resolution (or maybe you're smart and you realize you'll also have to sacrifice some graphics or 30fps). Suddenly, one day, Microsoft tells you that suddenly your console will be receiving games with substantially cut-down features, missing features, or in some case maybe the game even skips your console.

How would that make you feel about buying a future Microsoft product?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

The timing of BG3 drama/Universal acclaim/release on PS5, couldn't be more perfect for PS and its fans.

It seems almost like divine intervention.

 

[anonpuffs]

The timing of BG3 drama/Universal acclaim/release on PS5, couldn't be more perfect for PS and its fans.

It seems almost like divine intervention.

rather than divine intervention, more like karma for microsoft's stupidity in their console hardware strategy, and for refusing to replace incompetent c-suite leadership at xbox

 

[Ezekiel]

Because the Series S is the majority of their customer base.

Imagine you owned a Series S and you bought it on the presumption that your console is just the series X but just lower resolution (or maybe you're smart and you realize you'll also have to sacrifice some graphics or 30fps). Suddenly, one day, Microsoft tells you that suddenly your console will be receiving games with substantially cut-down features, missing features, or in some case maybe the game even skips your console.

How would that make you feel about buying a future Microsoft product?

I'd feel the full weight of my stupidity come crashing down on me. The sudden realization that I've been duped by an evil corporation would lead me to question my moral compass and critical thinking abilities.

 

[Darth Vader]

Imagine you owned a Series S and you bought it on the presumption that your console is just the series X but just lower resolution (or maybe you're smart and you realize you'll also have to sacrifice some graphics or 30fps).

Buying a Series S and being smart?

 

[Gediminas]

Because the Series S is the majority of their customer base.

Imagine you owned a Series S and you bought it on the presumption that your console is just the series X but just lower resolution (or maybe you're smart and you realize you'll also have to sacrifice some graphics or 30fps). Suddenly, one day, Microsoft tells you that suddenly your console will be receiving games with substantially cut-down features, missing features, or in some case maybe the game even skips your console.

How would that make you feel about buying a future Microsoft product?

You bought xbox, you stupid already.