Helldivers 2 will require Steam players to sign in with PSN account, led to review bombing games & refunds. |UP| Gamers organizing to revert reviews.

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The floodgates are about to open. Imagine fucking up a successful GaaS, that got traction outside of the gaming circle, because of a simple PR blunder that could have EASILY been avoided.
 

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imagine playing a game for 97 hours a filling for a refund, and getting the refund without paying anything for the hours you played 💀 all of this because of linking an account, that was in the game requirements, BEFORE the release of the game, this is SO WRONG
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That's what happens when you mess up a simple thing that could have been avoided.
Valve fanboys think they'll get Sony to revert this, they'll end up having all of Sony's games delisted from Steam with this fake outrage nonsense 🤡
 
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Maybe this is 4D chess and SIE's way of backing out of their PC strategy?

It's the only way this disaster of a fiasco could make any sense. And at least it'd mean them focusing back on their console the way they should have before the pandemic scared them into thinking GAAS & PC were the only real ways forward.

But, I could also be way too optimistic about that.
 

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Bro come on we dont need to make a new thread everytime theres helldivers 2 pc player outrage

Just merge it all into one existing thread
my friend, this is about refunds and Valve's answer to the situation, it has nothing to do with the outrage itself
 

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Valve fanboys think they'll get Sony to revert this, they'll end up having all of Sony's games delisted from Steam with this fake outrage nonsense 🤡
No, a company doesn't operate on feelings. Sony just screwed up, which will result in the game losing a lot of players and a massive refund wave. They should have taken the "loss" on this one and started the PSN requirements from Ghost of Tsushima. A much better solution than losing money AND finding yourself in an astroturfed shitstorm of your own doing.

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It's Sony. Don't think they think that far ahead or at that capacity. This was most likely a decision by some paper pusher who doesn't know the industry, just so he could see some MAU numbers grow.
 

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my friend, this is about refunds and Valve's answer to the situation, it has nothing to do with the outrage itself
Doesnt have to make another thread

You can merge this into the main one

We dont need hundred thread everytime theres pc player being mad on helldivers 2

This heldivers 2 pc mess is exhausting
 
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Maybe this is 4D chess and SIE's way of backing out of their PC strategy?

It's the only way this disaster of a fiasco could make any sense. And at least it'd mean them focusing back on their console the way they should have before the pandemic scared them into thinking GAAS & PC were the only real ways forward.

But, I could also be way too optimistic about that.
yeah, i do think they'll continue with PC ports but on their own launcher where they actually control the situation and the userbase, this thing with Steam is madness and insanity to say the least
 

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Doesnt have to make a another thread

You can merge this into the main one

We dont need hundred thread everytime theres pc player being mad on helldivers 2
i won't merge a single thing, specially when it's a new statement or response of a company that has nothing to do with the outrage itself, this is the staff work, not mine
 
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i've NEVER seen such amount of rage for any other company in the industry for an account requirement, not even the most garbage company in the world like EA
Then you haven't looked at PC gaming in years. 2022's fight over the Epic Game Store blows this out of the water. And Steam won that one too.
 

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Yeah Sony is the only publisher that shouldn't be allowed to have a required playstation account for their live service online games 🙄
Sony is the only publisher that started forcing this AFTER they sold the game to people. Let's not turn this forum into an xbox-like circle jerk, where it's always someone else's fault. Sony messed up. They should have delayed the game, staggered the release or included a limited "beta" to avoid the technical difficulties they had implementing that at release.

And again, I don't know why people keep bringing up the "Not only Sony does it" argument. The issue is, that unlike the others, Sony is the only one that did this after they sold the game to people. And while they have a legal leg to stand on by including this in the game's description from the start, they stand on shaky ground when it comes to morality.

It's a horrible way to do things and they possibly killed any momentum the game had. Just pure amateur hour.
 
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if i were sony, i wouldn't give money back to steam, or would demand 40$(-30%) anyways.

IIRC how that goes is that Steam is just going to deduct from the amount they were going to give PlayStation for April.
They're not going to ask for the money they've already sent.


See the Payment page here:

Q. When can I expect to be paid every month?
A. We pay out by the 30th of the month following sales. For example, we will pay you for calendar February month sales by March 30th. It may take a few business days for the payment to post to your bank account. In that case, you may see the payment in your bank account during the first few days of April, following the example above.


Yeah Sony is the only publisher that shouldn't be allowed to have a required playstation account for their live service online games 🙄

The thing is, it doesn't matter why Gamers™ are mad, it only matters that they are mad.

This is like when different public figures get graded on a scale(think politicians).
Some of them can commit heinous shit and still have relevancy or even keep their jobs while others, not so much.
Is it "fair"? Obviously not, but it's the public and the base that decides if they're "okay" with whatever.
 

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i will say this all seems so overblown, I also thought I saw a post somewhere that said a psn account was needed too.

With the dozens of launchers out there, I don't understand why this is such a big deal.

If you can build a fucking PC, surely you can make an account on PlayStation.


Then again, a lot of people made an issue about a screw on the ps5 ffs.
 
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Sony is the only publisher that started forcing this AFTER they sold the game to people. Let's not turn this forum into an xbox-like circle jerk, where it's always someone else's fault. Sony messed up. They should have delayed the game, staggered the release or included a limited "beta" to avoid the technical difficulties they had implementing that at release.

And again, I don't know why people keep bringing up the "Not only Sony does it" argument. The issue is, that unlike the others, Sony is the only one that did this after they sold the game to people. And while they have a legal leg to stand on by including this in the game's description from the start, they stand on shaky ground when it comes to morality.

It's a horrible way to do things and they possibly killed any momentum the game had. Just pure amateur hour.
It was their day one but had issues so they had to remove it while they worked on the issues it always said a playstation account was required on the details of the game