[Hiroki Totoki] PS5 Pro's pre-orders are "slightly stronger" than PS4 Pro during the same period

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The marketing was stronger this time around. The showcase of example games sold a lot of people when they otherwise would’ve been on the fence.

Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is night and day against the base PS5.

Night and Day perfomance on FF7 rebirth and surely for any upcoming game like GTA6

The piece of garbage writing toward ps5pro by gaming media when xbox didnt make similar midgen upgrade is amazing

Show how much microsoft control the media
 
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Night and Day perfomance on FF7 rebirth and surely for any upcoming game like GTA6

The piece of garbage writing toward ps5pro by gaming media when xbox didnt make similar midgen upgrade is amazing

Show how much microsoft control the media

It's not so much about Microsoft control but rather gaming media wants to preserve the idea of console wars. You're going to see a lot of sites shut down that are pretty Xbox centric as well. How many sega sites do you see out there today?


The marketing was stronger this time around. The showcase of example games sold a lot of people when they otherwise would’ve been on the fence.

Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is night and day against the base PS5.

People are comparing marketing from October to marketing from November as if things aren't built out in a marketing campaign.

Sony made the announcement for the PS5 Pro to get it out of the way. It was the biggest open secret, but they have to announce the thing. That being said, they have to be careful marketing in favor of the PS5 Pro and not against the PS5, AMD, or their publisher partners.

It's easier for publishers to speak out individually about enhancements and for the market to decide the value of the PS5 Pro on its own.

Somehow I think people expected DF style video from Sony showing games running sub 60 or with really poor image quality on the PS5, which is still their primary product.

For the PS5 Pro to be successful it can not be a referendum on the PS5. It's about increasing margins, not about devaluing the PS5.
 

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Used the PS4 drive like twice the whole generation.
What the point exactly in this day and age?

I’m saying that just because I believe having a drive or not have 0 impact in 2024 in a console selling or not.
I've never used my PS5 drive 😅
 
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Used the PS4 drive like twice the whole generation.
What the point exactly in this day and age?

I’m saying that just because I believe having a drive or not have 0 impact in 2024 in a console selling or not.

All the proponents of physical media are marching dangerously towards a day when their games get locked out from new consoles and the bitch fest they're going to have when that happens...
 
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Night and Day perfomance on FF7 rebirth and surely for any upcoming game like GTA6

The piece of garbage writing toward ps5pro by gaming media when xbox didnt make similar midgen upgrade is amazing

Show how much microsoft control the media

It's not so much about Microsoft control but rather gaming media wants to preserve the idea of console wars. You're going to see a lot of sites shut down that are pretty Xbox centric as well. How many sega sites do you see out there today?
 
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Night and Day perfomance on FF7 rebirth and surely for any upcoming game like GTA6

The piece of garbage writing toward ps5pro by gaming media when xbox didnt make similar midgen upgrade is amazing

Show how much microsoft control the media
Performance was not a issue in Rebirth but if PS5 Pro fixed the ridiculous blurry IQ it is already a huge gain.
 

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Performance was not a issue in Rebirth but if PS5 Pro fixed the ridiculous blurry IQ it is already a huge gain.
Huge improvement gain on pro

Its ps5 quality mode running on steady 60 fps

Also fix lots of low res texture on base ps5
 
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Used the PS4 drive like twice the whole generation.
What the point exactly in this day and age?

I’m saying that just because I believe having a drive or not have 0 impact in 2024 in a console selling or not.
I have a philosophical aversion being beholden to a single store.

Once it’s all digital, expecting to be rolled. Mind it’s already the case. As someone that buys a lot of games at or around release, physical can be had for 30%+ cheaper than PSN due to retail competition.

Do I need the 30% in my pocket, I’m fortunate enough for it to make no difference- however it’s the mass market we are talking about.
 
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Will be very interesting to see the sales compared to this poll.


People who are interesting:

Less than 500K: John Elden Ring aka Dragouth
500k - 1 million: arvfab, etfilio, ToTTenTranz
1-1.5 million - Thicc
Nice reminder, I voted 1,5-2. I would'v been bit more bullish knowing MH is coming out within this fiscal for sure, back then the release date wasn't revealed.
 

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The sales target includes units from the new PlayStation 5 Pro, which was launched Thursday. In the U.S., the enhanced console carries a price tag of $699.99. While Totoki acknowledged that he has received many comments about this high price, he also showed no signs of changing it.

"It is a high-end product targeted at core customers, so we haven't been eyeing a large sales plan to begin with," the president said. "I'm under the impression that the product is performing slightly stronger than the pre-orders of the PS4 Pro during the same period, so I don't think it is adversely affecting the product's sales plan."

I'm really happy to hear that! (y)
 

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And what will you say if Lego Horizon turns out to be a quality game?

I would have been happy, as I love LEGO. Guess multiplatform development hurt it a bit.

Hopefully it does commercially good enough to have some more official LEGO Horizon sets. The Tallneck was a pleasure to build.
 
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The CEO of Playstation knows more about the sales of his own product than we do?

Pretends To Be Shocked Fake Shock GIF by AIDES
 
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Sorry quest... I had to quote you :D

selling 1 more pro console than the ps4 pro in the same period is not "slightly better sales" TickTocki.

These mofos lie from top to bottom

Another one...

If a CEO is saying he's under the impression about sales numbers for the biggest hardware launch of his company's past 47 months, he's either:

1 - Utterly incompetent because there's no way he hasn't had hard numbers for this at the distance of a phone call or a click.

2 - Choosing his words very carefully because he doesn't want to get caught lying his ass off with false information that could get shareholders suing his ass.


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So for these that could not believe in the words of our CEO.

Sales reports of PS5 Pro across the world are slapping their faces.

Yeah as much as I dont like the direction and some of the choices they are making, they have no reason to lie when it comes to sales numbers and expectations.

Compared to Phil who doesnt share numbers
 
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Considering Xbox is all but out of the picture you’d hope more PlayStation are being sold as the only serious console option