How Youtubes New Gaming Leak Culture Actually Works.

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According to a report from 404 Media, which has allegedly obtained an internal Google database tracking six years of potential privacy and security issues, one employee has been responsible for several leaked Nintendo announcements in the past. But according to our sources, that’s just the tip of the iceberg in this new Google/YouTube leak culture. First, it should be stressed that 404 Media’s report is based on information spanning from 2013 – 2018, but is clearly still an issue today.

A couple of days ago, I tweeted that YouTube had investigated two occasions (that I know of) when employees breached their contractual agreements by accessing data on the backend. While only one of these investigations was purely gaming-related due to leaking announcements, it’s important to dive into the first instance and how it caused a substantial internal investigation that caused some people to lose their jobs.

The first investigation happened towards the latter end of 2022. The catalyst? A ‘Try not to make me laugh’ video by popular content creator KSI. Back then, KSI would do a weekly YouTube series called ‘Try not to make me laugh’ in which if he laughed, he would display an Amazon Gift Card on screen for one of his viewers to redeem. At first, he started at $100 per gift card per laugh and incrementally got higher and higher with each video. In the final video, KSI offered up $1000 per laugh, with the grand total of all the cards exceeding $10,000+ for his fans to redeem. The catch? They were all redeemed before the video went public.

The scandal resulted in KSI and his team pressing YouTube, which resulted in Google conducting an internal investigation. According to our sources, who wished to stay anonymous as they were not authorized to talk about the company’s internal processes, the investigation led to some people being fired, even some not privy to the scandal. “Your videos are not just watched for monetization approval,” said one source. “They are watched by employees all the time,” they continued. This included anything private, scheduled, or unlisted: showcases, game announcements, and other footage not intended to see the light of day.

Of the two I’m aware of, YouTube’s second investigation happened soon after the GTA 6 leak, which, admittingly, could have just been a wild coincidence. After all, it has now become common knowledge among those in the industry that many gaming leaks do come from unlisted, scheduled, or private YouTube videos – and maybe the investigation was already ongoing at this time. Nonetheless, the result probably resulted in disciplinary action for one or more people.

Whatever the case, though, these investigations have seemingly done nothing to stop it from happening again.

Sony’s recent State of Play was a big eye-opener for me and the most recent example I can give about how widespread this new YouTube leak culture is. Within around 18 hours of the State of Play being scheduled on YouTube, I had four different individuals send me the complete game list. Some game names were slightly different from others, likely because of different regions and the rush to jot everything down to be the first, but they were all generally spot on. One such individual even told me that the information was sold to an undisclosed person for a small three-figure amount, who then told him to spread it to more people for validity.

It is unclear how this will be resolved. Still, repeat investigations are clearly not working, and simply not uploading the content to YouTube before an announcement is a marketing nightmare for publishers. For instance, it’s not ideal for your first glimpse of a game to be in 360p because of YouTube’s shoddy processing times. Then, there are other marketing needs, such as sending the content to marketing partners, content creators, the media, and more.

But yes, there you have it. That’s how a lot of information is leaked before a reveal, at least to my understanding anyway. After all, it isn’t a coincidence that precise bits of information leak before being revealed in the way that they have been.

Why people are simply not being fired for breaking the rules is also a mystery, but perhaps there are so many people who watch this behind-the-scenes content, that it could be impractical to lay that many people off.

Datamining and searching for trademarks are also common ways for people to obtain information, and I can discuss them further in the future if requested. But I also want to point readers to a Reddit post from Jason Schreier, which explains a lot of other ways of sourcing in detail.
 

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Sony’s recent State of Play was a big eye-opener for me and the most recent example I can give about how widespread this new YouTube leak culture is. Within around 18 hours of the State of Play being scheduled on YouTube, I had four different individuals send me the complete game list. Some game names were slightly different from others, likely because of different regions and the rush to jot everything down to be the first, but they were all generally spot on. One such individual even told me that the information was sold to an undisclosed person for a small three-figure amount, who then told him to spread it to more people for validity.

Someone really risked being sued over 500 dollars lmao
 

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Youtube needs to make a feature that encrypts the video on the backend for corporate accounts and decrypts them at a time set by the account owner to prevent this. Not sure why they havent done it yet.
 
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Youtube needs to make a feature that encrypts the video on the backend for corporate accounts and decrypts them at a time set by the account owner to prevent this. Not sure why they havent done it yet.
Actually they just needs to put permission to only the owner of the video being able to access it before launch.
Nobody at YouTube backend can watch them before it goes public.
Plus if it needed when the owner asks via SR then it gives a special permission granted by managers to access that specific video.

I have no ideia why YouTube's employees can have access to video from all companies.
I don't have access to docs from our clients except the clients I work with... my user cant access their data.
These documents are private... the less people inside YouTube with access... better.
 

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Actually they just needs to put permission to only the owner of the video being able to access it before launch.
Nobody at YouTube backend can watch them before it goes public.
Plus if it needed when the owner asks via SR then it gives a special permission granted by managers to access that specific video.

I have no ideia why YouTube's employees can have access to video from all companies.
I don't have access to docs from our clients except the clients I work with... my user cant access their data.
These documents are private... the less people inside YouTube with access... better.
Putting encryption on the videos is easier and more effective than account restrictions
 
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Putting encryption on the videos is easier and more effective than account restrictions
I'm pretty sure they are already encrypted on their backend.
They issue is that if you are YouTube's employee you can access all encrypted videos.
 
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Youtube needs to make a feature that encrypts the video on the backend for corporate accounts and decrypts them at a time set by the account owner to prevent this. Not sure why they havent done it yet.
What companies need to do is to don't upload stuff to youtube weeks in advance and to upload it only a couple hours before.
 

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Losing your job and risking a lawsuit from Youtube to leak stuff early. That's next level stupid.
 
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Losing your job and rising a lawsuit from Youtube to leak stuff early. That's next level stupid.
But the issue seems that YouTube is not firing people or even going court.
Seems they just do nothing at all.

So what exactly they are risking if there is no consequences? YT needs to step up first... they need to set the example.
 
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For big companies the answer is simple, instead of uploading a video and setting a go-live time, do it as a live stream of a video you already recorded. Nintendo figured this out half a decade ago and, realistically speaking, everyone else will probably do this too after what happened to the SoP.
 
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But the issue seems that YouTube is not firing people or even going court.
Seems they just do nothing at all.

So what exactly they are risking if there is no consequences? YT needs to step up first... they need to se the example.
These corporations need to sue google to force them to do something
 
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For big companies the answer is simple, instead of uploading a video and setting a go-live time, do it as a live stream of a video you already recorded. Nintendo figured this out half a decade ago and, realistically speaking, everyone else will probably do this too after what happened to the SoP.
It's not about that. Companies put out trailers from the show to their channel, set to go live after the show ends.

The Youtube employee who leaked the SoP just saw video titles of the trailers that were set to go live after the show, not the show itself.
Which is why his SoP leak included Phantom Blade 0 and Gravity Rush 2 Remastered. Both of these trailers were probably uploaded to private alongside the SoP trailers, but reserved for Summer Game Fest.
 

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It's not about that. Companies put out trailers from the show to their channel, set to go live after the show ends.

The Youtube employee who leaked the SoP just saw video titles of the trailers that were set to go live after the show, not the show itself.
Which is why his SoP leak included Phantom Blade 0 and Gravity Rush 2 Remastered. Both of these trailers were probably uploaded to private alongside the SoP trailers, but reserved for Summer Game Fest.
Then don't do that. Though the article does make it clear that leakers have also been watching the videos outright (to steal Amazon codes, among other things.)
 
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Then don't do that. Though the article does make it clear that leakers have also been watching the videos outright (to steal Amazon codes, among other things.)
Yeah smh. It's alot of bs.
 

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But the issue seems that YouTube is not firing people or even going court.
Seems they just do nothing at all.

So what exactly they are risking if there is no consequences? YT needs to step up first... they need to set the example.
Doesn't the article mention something about firing people? I think it does. But in any case, even if they did fire people I dont think they will ever disclose the outcome of internal investigations. So we'll never know.
 

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Doesn't the article mention something about firing people? I think it does. But in any case, even if they did fire people I dont think they will ever disclose the outcome of internal investigations. So we'll never know.
It does say they are not firing people.

Why people are simply not being fired for breaking the rules is also a mystery…