I agree. I would rather pay full price on Steam than play the game entirely for free on Epic. Yes, it might sound outlandish and stupid but it is what it is, and I can assure you I'm not the only Steam user who thinks this wayMost launchers have failed and they’re all jumping to support steam now.
You would think it doesn’t matter much but storefront tribalism exists on a platform that can support them all. Pc players would still rather buy a game full price on steam than sub to windows gamespass for that same game.
So competing against steam doesn’t seem like a wise move at all whatsoever. Rather… embrace it.
My issue is that steam users now will get psn support, cross-save, trophies and voice channels when console users deal with an additional paywall to play online. Plus needs a major rework to fix this. I’d choose to give up the monthly freebies for sure if that was the case.
I don’t see “cross-buy” as a reasonable expectation at all tho. No way Sony, devs, storefronts and hardware makers will be so generous.
If I could play the first party PlayStation games I already own on PC without having to buy them again for PC, and I would get cross-saving, trophies. and full wireless DualSense support, I would use a separate launcher for that.Please... no one wants another launcher, most people on PC gamers wouldn't switch off Steam. Every launcher has been a disaster and they eventually all brought their games to Steam for a reason.
Why would they have to drop the console?
Why can't we have both?
I am fifty years of now. I do not want to sit at a PC to play games, nor do I want to pay double or triple the price for a system to do so.
Mention getting rid of consoles again and you will force me to act, don't make me ban @JAHGamer to set an example.
Pelo keep saying that here but...Please... no one wants another launcher, most people on PC gamers wouldn't switch off Steam. Every launcher has been a disaster and they eventually all brought their games to Steam for a reason.
Because Sony wants to have a good store, with anti-cheat and anti-piracy DRM, plus being the PSN store.Why doesn't Sony just buy CD Project Red, and then we can have GOG
I think the easier way for them is to release at the same time:The only way I would see any third party publishers getting on this thing is if it was some requirement for future exclusivity deals on specific titles such as the FF VII Rebirth thing. Like "if we moneyhat your game, you need to put it on our PC app and have cross-buy with the PlayStation console store"
Pelo keep saying that here but...
Ubisoft PC Revenue with Steam:
FY2012-13: €113 million (9% split)
FY2013-14: €151 million (15% split)
FY2014-15: €176 million (12% split)
FY2015-16: €195 million (14% split)
FY2016-17: €263 million (18% split)
FY2017-18: €312 million (17% split)
Ubisoft PC Revenue without Steam:
FY2018-19: €498 million (27% split)
FY2019-20: €415 million (26% split)
FY2020-21: €511million (23% split)
FY2021-22: €553 million (26% split)
Ubisoft PC Revenue when they started to put some titles on Steam again:
FY2022-23: €327 million (18% split)
I want to see data to backup that claim but there is none... all data we see is less revenue and market split when launching on Steam for Ubisoft.
And when they again start to put some games on Steam the first year back to low revenue and split.
you guys LOVE monopolies when it comes to PC gaming, don't ya?I agree. I would rather pay full price on Steam than play the game entirely for free on Epic. Yes, it might sound outlandish and stupid but it is what it is, and I can assure you I'm not the only Steam user who thinks this way
When it's Steam? Yeah, absolutelyyou guys LOVE monopolies when it comes to PC gaming, don't ya?
When it's Steam? Yeah, absolutely
You already have your mind made up.if they offer me a great launcher, i would since i play on my desk, on a 4k monitor and i already have a gaming PC with an RTX 4070 on it, and i use the PC for a lot of other things, not only gaming, seems like that's the path for me
Imagine thinking Steam is just another 'corporate' who is just out for our money. Do you know anything about Gaben? do you even play on Steam or what?That's what we call a brown-nosing corporate shill lapdog. You guys are even worst than the console variants. At least most console fanboys are self-aware.
Epic is already better, but the pc propagandists won’t let you believe thatImagine thinking Steam is just another 'corporate' who is just out for our money. Do you know anything about Gaben? do you even play on Steam or what?
Once another game store becomes as good as them on PC, I will stop simping for Steam
you guys are 10000x worse than console warriorsWhen it's Steam? Yeah, absolutely
Epic is already better, but the pc propagandists won’t let you believe that