IconEra Pride Month Close Out Party - The Last of Us 2 Tribute

[EbonyRainbow]

Since today is the last day of Pride month I figure it would be fun to go out with a bang!

I figure in honor of pride month it would be fun to focus on the ONLY AAA LGBTQIA+ protagonist that I know of

The Queen Ellie!

I was originally thinking about turning this thread into a complaint on the lack of AAA LGBTQIA+ protagonists but I want this to be celebratory so I'll save that for another day.
Let's just talk about why Ellie is such a good character and why Sony and Naughty Dog were so brave to step out and actually produce such a raw and passion game.

Ellie was an obvious lesbian from Last of Us part 1 where we experienced the heartfelt tragedy of her losing her friend and amore Riley

She is the first protagonist in a AAA video game that is canonically lesbian and not one of those dragon age or assassins creed type that "oh it's up to you" but then their canon usually washes that all away stuff.

Ellie and Joel were one of the best daddy daughter relationships ever written and anyone who played the Last of Us can agree that we all felt our heartstrings plucked at watching their bond form and bond.

We get to watch her fall in love with the equally well written Dina

And her life is torn apart when she loses her father figure to Abby

We feel her rage and heartbreak as she is forced to spectate her father be beaten to death.
A path of bloodlust eventually leads her to a halt where shes able to find some semblance of peace and quiet with Dina and their newly adopted child

But the trauma of watching her father figure be beaten to death in front of her eyes was too much and she pursues Abby and she risks losing her new family

Finally Ellie is alone due to the consequences of her decisions and cannot even play the one thing that brought her peace of mind due to her new injury caused by Abby.

I personally am still hoping for a director cut or DLC where Ellie is able to patch things up with Dina but who knows if well ever get one.

If you haven't played The Last of Us 2 I highly recommend you do and I hope I didn't spoil it it for you! I hope you all had an amazing pride month IconEra!

 

[Satoru]

I personally am still hoping for a director cut or DLC where Ellie is able to patch things up with Dina but who knows if well ever get one.

I'd like to see that, or a DLC where Ellie is dealing with the consequences for her actions and is alone for the whole thing. Just thinking her life.

 

[Bryank75]

I'd like to see that, or a DLC where Ellie is dealing with the consequences for her actions and is alone for the whole thing. Just thinking her life.

Interesting concept.... I'd play that.

 

[kyliethicc]

Love this game. Hopefully they make a PS5 port.

And someday, a Part III.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

I think all the cast was ugly. I want some eye candy in the next one

I'll play the Director's Cut if they add a prequel chapter with a younger Joel and Tommy

 

[Satoru]

They still have 2 games in the saga, IMO

1 - TLOU Pt III, which I'd love if it focused on Abby and Ellie, with them reconciling in the end, or at least forgiving each other
2 - TLOU Prequel, with Joel, set just after outbreak day and covering the first few months / years.

I wouldn't need anything else from this saga if these released.

 

[Kokoloko]

Love this game. Hopefully they make a PS5 port.

And someday, a Part III.

What could they do with Part 3?
Feels like Ellie’s story is finished.I don’t think Ellie or Abbey are going after each other again. Both had their chance to kill each other

 

[Kokoloko]

Amazing games

Id love a prequel to either TLOU1 or TLOU2.
Or new take somewhere else in the world. Or even somewhere else in the USA, based on new characters

 

[rofif]

I dont find tlou2 really celebrating and showcasing any of this as haters would suggest.
It's just a part of the world and they don't put a spotlight on it. As it should be to feel normal.
Good job ND.
Love this game!!!

 

[kyliethicc]

What could they do with Part 3?
Feels like Ellie’s story is finished.I don’t think Ellie or Abbey are going after each other again. Both had their chance to kill each other

Part 1 - Ellie’s rise, Joel’s redemption
Part 2 - Ellie’s fall, Abby’s redemption
Part 3 - Ellie’s redemption

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Love this game. Hopefully they make a PS5 port.

And someday, a Part III.

Isn't the PS4 version BC on PS5 with some updates? At least 60 FPS IIRC?

What could they do with Part 3?
Feels like Ellie’s story is finished.I don’t think Ellie or Abbey are going after each other again. Both had their chance to kill each other

Maybe focus on a world in the process of deploying an actual cure, but some sick nutjobs want things to remain as they are?

I wished stuff like TWD actually got to the point of a cure developing, or the zombies becoming more complex (like Big Daddy in Land of the Dead) and seeing the characters start to work with that and have to start considering zombies as something other than a threat.

 

[Bryank75]

Isn't the PS4 version BC on PS5 with some updates? At least 60 FPS IIRC?



Maybe focus on a world in the process of deploying an actual cure, but some sick nutjobs want things to remain as they are?

I wished stuff like TWD actually got to the point of a cure developing, or the zombies becoming more complex (like Big Daddy in Land of the Dead) and seeing the characters start to work with that and have to start considering zombies as something other than a threat.

and I always thought Ellies immunity would be a bigger part of the story in part 2....

I agree a cure situation could lead to very interesting plot points and the human behavior resulting from it.

 

[kyliethicc]

Isn't the PS4 version BC on PS5 with some updates? At least 60 FPS IIRC?

Yeah its a locked 60 with an added 3D audio mix option, so it plays wonderfully and sounds great.

Issue is the load times, especially compared to the Uncharted Collection.

Trying to use the encounters in Part 2 takes a while since it’s still a PS4 game.
While Uncharted loads in like 1 second since it’s a PS5 game.
And the upcoming Part 1 will also load super fast since it’s a PS5 game.

And full DualSense support would be nice. Especially since Part 1 will have it.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

and I always thought Ellies immunity would be a bigger part of the story in part 2....

I agree a cure situation could lead to very interesting plot points and the human behavior resulting from it.

Maybe focus on a world in the process of deploying an actual cure, but some sick nutjobs want things to remain as they are?

100% this. They completely dropped Ellie's immunity after the beginning of the game. Why? It was the most important feature of her character arc.

That would be the best part for TLOU3. That and tracking down Abby with a machete

 

[EbonyRainbow]

100% this. They completely dropped Ellie's immunity after the beginning of the game. Why? It was the most important feature of her character arc.

That would be the best part for TLOU3. That and tracking down Abby with a machete

I would rather that Abby and Ellie had to join forces and maybe use Ellie's immunity to save the world! I also want Ellie to get back with Dina but maybe a love triangle where Ellie meets anther girl that reminds her of Riley and shes torn between the two

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Yeah its a locked 60 with an added 3D audio mix option, so it plays wonderfully and sounds great.

Issue is the load times, especially compared to the Uncharted Collection.

Trying to use the encounters in Part 2 takes a while since it’s still a PS4 game.
While Uncharted loads in like 1 second since it’s a PS5 game.
And the upcoming Part 1 will also load super fast since it’s a PS5 game.

And full DualSense support would be nice. Especially since Part 1 will have it.

Ah, okay. Wonder how long the load times are specifically for it on PS5? Would've thought ND went back and updated that aspect; IIRC Supermassive did for Until Dawn and got load times down ridiculous amount on even base PS4, so we know it's all mainly in the way these devs write their file I/O in the game software engines (and also how the games handle asset loading, streaming, caching and so forth).

That and tracking down Abby with a machete

LOL. But for real tho, I think Abby at least kinda "gets it" in terms of how they f'ed up with Joel. Maybe in a timeskip she loses that girl she's close with and it finally really hits home, then her and Ellie have something else in common.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

I would rather that Abby and Ellie had to join forces and maybe use Ellie's immunity to save the world!

That would actually be a nice twist Now I want to see that. Drop the machete

I felt sorry for Abby in the end but the whole game I was pissed. I could never enjoy playing as her no matter the backstory they shoehorn.

 

[Papacheeks]

I would rather that Abby and Ellie had to join forces and maybe use Ellie's immunity to save the world! I also want Ellie to get back with Dina but maybe a love triangle where Ellie meets anther girl that reminds her of Riley and shes torn between the two

Imagine if the third game is Ellie trying to redeem her sins the whole time? What if they skip a couple years ahead? Ellie ends up at some town, similar to Jackson, but shes being pursued by the new reformed Firefly? She ends up meeting some kid in town who helps her out, kid ends up being Dina's kid?

Imagine if the mid point after Dina finds out Ellie is in town, firefly's show up and ellie thinks they are there for her. But the twist later on after ellie is begged by a dying Dina to take the kid and get him/her(cant remember if it was a boy or girl) our of there that the kid is immune. So its ellie taking the role of Joel with this kid who is a little young but close to ellie's age before she met joel. The twist would be after a long journey the firefly's catch up with Ellie and they take the kid. And as elliie sneaks into their big compound finds out the kid is similar to her, and is immune.

Instead of ellie running in like Joel guns blazing like last of us part 1, she makes a deal with the leader who ends up being Marlene's daughter/son. Leader lets the kid go, and the kid goes with Tommy or someone ellie trusts. Ellie is bleeding out already, and says that they can use her body to study the effects of the virus since she is dying anyway.

Fast forward years later at the farm house outside of jackson, and there are 3 grave stones, One of ellie one for joel and one for Dina.

And it now shows the new kid basically grown up, and helping out at jackson with an older tommy and a pregnant Maria Miller.

Credits roll as new character picks up Ellie's guitar at the farm and starts playing.

 

[Bryank75]

Imagine if the third game is Ellie trying to redeem her sins the whole time? What if they skip a couple years ahead? Ellie ends up at some town, similar to Jackson, but shes being pursued by the new reformed Firefly? She ends up meeting some kid in town who helps her out, kid ends up being Dina's kid?

Imagine if the mid point after Dina finds out Ellie is in town, firefly's show up and ellie thinks they are there for her. But the twist later on after ellie is begged by a dying Dina to take the kid and get him/her(cant remember if it was a boy or girl) our of there that the kid is immune. So its ellie taking the role of Joel with this kid who is a little young but close to ellie's age before she met joel. The twist would be after a long journey the firefly's catch up with Ellie and they take the kid. And as elliie sneaks into their big compound finds out the kid is similar to her, and is immune.

Instead of ellie running in like Joel guns blazing like last of us part 1, she makes a deal with the leader who ends up being Marlene's daughter/son. Leader lets the kid go, and the kid goes with Tommy or someone ellie trusts. Ellie is bleeding out already, and says that they can use her body to study the effects of the virus since she is dying anyway.

Fast forward years later at the farm house outside of jackson, and there are 3 grave stones, One of ellie one for joel and one for Dina.

And it now shows the new kid basically grown up, and helping out at jackson with an older tommy and a pregnant Maria Miller.

Credits roll as new character picks up Ellie's guitar at the farm and starts playing.

Sounds very interesting... I would like something along those lines and fits very well with the tone across the first two games.

 

[Papacheeks]

Sounds very interesting... I would like something along those lines and fits very well with the tone across the first two games.

Imagine if the person she trusts thats there and helped her infiltrate firefly facility is Abbie? Imagine once Ellie sees Dina's kid get taken, she doesn't know where they would be. So she has to go to Abbie for help. And rest of the game is Abbie and Ellie working together similar to Joel and Ellie. Imagine if it's co-op?