I think the Game Porting Toolkit is a big step as far as showing they are more serious this time.
INSIDE APPLE'S PUSH TO TRANSFORM THE MAC INTO A GAMING PARADISE
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I don't thin there is any reason to assume the Mac audience is less likely to play games. When I was considering changing from a desktop to a notebook I was really tempted to get a MacBook air, Apple has a lot going on for them when it comes to software, energy efficiency, form factor, UI, speakers/screen, etc. Apple hardware also holds their value much better.
Arm is coming for windows too, but cannot see MSFT being able to make any meaningful changes in short term to provide enough support to make it in anyway a competition for Apple Silicon.
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Don't really agree with the article, just wanted to post something that touches the subject.
2024 could be the year the PC finally dumps x86 for Arm, all thanks to Windows 12 and Qualcomm's new chip
It's been a very, very long time coming, but it looks like it's finally happening.
There have been ARM builds of Windows for over a decade, but when MS does stupid things like not porting PowerShell modules that they make to ARM, it limits the usefulness.Arm is coming for windows too, but cannot see MSFT being able to make any meaningful changes in short term to provide enough support to make it in anyway a competition for Apple Silicon.
Don't really agree with the article, just wanted to post something that touches the subject.2024 could be the year the PC finally dumps x86 for Arm, all thanks to Windows 12 and Qualcomm's new chip
It's been a very, very long time coming, but it looks like it's finally happening.
I use a Mac for work, with a Parallels VM of Windows 11 ARM, and I STILL have to log onto an X86-64 PC for some things I need to do for Azure administration tasks due to PowerShell limitations. That is utter bullshit.
Until and unless MS addresses things like that, Windows on ARM is not ready for prime time.
Yeah, having Arm builds of their own software is one thing, but actually making Arm viable architecture for all the software on their OS, that I don't see happening anytime soon.
Apple somehow is there already(kind of) pretty impressed by how they've made the shift.
I’ve been surprised how much non-MS software works flawlessly on ARM Windows. Granted that is all sysadmin stuff, not games, but still.
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It's pointless to compare "Windows users" with "the Mac audience" since both comprise huge pools of people with different purposes. Gamers are obviously a subset of both user-bases, even if they exclusively game on Playstation.
I think you can make some assumptions about Apple users not trying to game on Apple because it has always been a bad experience going back to the 80s. The idea that Apple is going to succeed *now* after abandoning x86 is a big ass stretch. They're less equipped as a gaming platform now than they were in 2006.
At the very least, the M chips are not going to compete with midrange desktop GPU parts like the 3060 or 6600. Apple doesn't have a segment for mainstream GPU usage. If you want a semi-serious GPU in a Mac, you have to start with the Studio for $2000, and it won't outperform a 3070 for gaming.
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Do some reading outside of the PC bubble.
None of what you said is the slightest bit accurate.
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Nobody wants Apple and their fleecing culture with insane profit margins in traditional premium gaming. Just an "enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation and to a degree. Enough to keep MS/Valve sweating, busy and its resources divided but not enough to become anything of consequence to the premium games industry. Satoru is right.
What?
Do you think Nvidia is operating on small margins with their "traditional premium gaming" focus?
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I think Nvidia is another fleecer and console's eternal ace in the hole. The second they got a chance to fleece the "enthusiast market" on the back of the miner frenzy they did.... and the greed-based transgressions are endless. There are degree's to this fleecing business, and Apple takes the cake. They all can go at it - which is the point... but of the two? MS led consortium or Apple? The MS led consortium is preferable. Both weak scratching the dirt for consumer adoption is the best of all worlds for gamers in the premium games market - specially console gamers.
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Here's what I read before posting:
Review: The Mac Studio shows us exactly why Apple left Intel behind
Part Mac mini, part trashcan Mac Pro, the Studio is one impressive mini desktop.
arstechnica.com