Lack of PS5 Pro shortages means some scalpers are re-selling at a loss

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Is the story even true? The source is VGC, and a look at eBay UK shows several consoles above the official retail price and a few below on the first few pages. If I compare that with the PS5, the Pro is more of a normal picture on eBay.

I understand scalpers to be something different. It seems that a few people have gambled away their money here, just like with PSVR2. In my opinion, that doesn't make much sense. The console is already a product with a premium price, and scalpers are usually well informed about whether there is any demand at all and whether there is any profit to be made. A few minutes of research are enough to see how the PS4 Pro, with a much lower price, sold to know that the Pro was normally available to buy in the first few months. Hardly anyone needs the Pro at the moment. It makes more sense to see if and when GTA6 is coming out, and then to buy out some stock a few weeks beforehand.

As I said, I have no idea whether VGC made up the story to get a few clicks, or whether there are other sources, but I don't think the real scalpers are that stupid. It is enough to type PS5 Pro into YouTube to see that the price is currently too high for some and that there are no current games that really require a Pro. That will change next year, as fewer and fewer games run at 60 FPS or have a similarly poor image quality as FF7 Rebirth. Monster Hunter Wilds will probably already have clear advantages on Pro and increase demand. The right organized scalpers will certainly monitor the market and then strike as soon as demand increases. This was already clearly visible with the disc drive.
 

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Console here is 800 euro.
Disc drive is 100 euro.

Let's convert that to US dollars shall we?

In US Pro is 700 dollars
Drive is 80 dollars

EU Pro in dollars: 857
Disc drive: 107
184 dollar difference.

Yeah fuck Sony
You ever hear of Value Added Tax?
 
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Console here is 800 euro.
Disc drive is 100 euro.

Let's convert that to US dollars shall we?

In US Pro is 700 dollars
Drive is 80 dollars

EU Pro in dollars: 857
Disc drive: 107
184 dollar difference.

Yeah fuck Sony

US prices are without tax.
 

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But where are the disc drives?
Current day Sony wants you to own nothing and be happy.

Their plan is to get everyone on board for accepting their monopoly on distribution, and the power to take away their games for whatever reason.
 
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Well the one to buy and profit from was the 30th Anniversary edition, not sure why they would try that with the base PS5 Pro.
Literally sold 2 of them (keeping 1 for myself) on the same day I got them and I'm up 9K. Still waiting for them to arrive though :(
 
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Console here is 800 euro.
Disc drive is 100 euro.

Let's convert that to US dollars shall we?

In US Pro is 700 dollars
Drive is 80 dollars

EU Pro in dollars: 857
Disc drive: 107
184 dollar difference.

Yeah fuck Sony

Hmm, the final price is similar here. It's 329 Omani Rials with 5% VAT included, which is = $855 USD. Just ordered mine today in the shop.
 

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I think PS5 pro should have sold only to folks that have more than 1k hours of gameplay in their systems.
 

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Even with tax. The difference is stupid.
Because in EU we also pay for electronic waste when you buy it. Also adds to the price.
Irish VAT is 23%
123% = 800
1% = 800 / 123 = €6.504065
100% = €6.504065 x 100 = €650.04 net price of the good

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Yeah, the difference between 699.99 and 696.98 is stupid.

You are seriously complaining about the electronics waste charge? This is to stop people throwing the broken electronics in the countryside rather than return them to recycle for free when broken. The waste disposal charge is upfront as charging to get get rid of goods later would encourage littering. It's fairly basic to understand.
 
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Great to hear. Serves them right

Usual “neutral”members trying to narrate the news to, buy a PC lol
 

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Irish VAT is 23%
123% = 800
1% = 800 / 123 = €6.504065
100% = €6.504065 x 100 = €650.04 net price of the good

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Yeah, the difference between 699.99 and 696.98 is stupid.

You are seriously complaining about the electronics waste charge? This is to stop people throwing the broken electronics in the countryside rather than return them to recycle for free when broken. The waste disposal charge is upfront as charging to get get rid of goods later would encourage littering. It's fairly basic to understand.
Now do the disc drive at 120€.


Can't wait to see the gymnastics being pulled here.

Unless it's not convenient for the narrative, if course.
 

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Now do the disc drive at 120€.


Can't wait to see the gymnastics being pulled here.

Unless it's not convenient for the narrative, if course.
Net value is €97.56.
US equivalent is $104.61
Difference of Net is €24.62

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Might as well do the PS Portal while we're at it to prove how right you are.
$200 US (price taken from Sony online store)
€220 Ireland (Smyths Toys)
Net of VAT in Ireland is 178.86
$191.79 in US Dollars
Cheaper Net price in Ireland by around 8 bucks

That's strange. Maybe we try a basic controller.
Black dualsense controller
US $74.99 (Sony Direct USA store)
Ireland €64.99 (Smyths toys)
Irish Net of VAT is €52.84
$56.66 in US Dollars
Cheaper Net price in Ireland by around $18

I'm confused...it's almost like there is a small fluctuation on both sides on the net price of the goods.
 

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I'm confused...it's almost like there is a small fluctuation on both sides on the net price of the goods.

US equivalent is $104.61. Price in the US is $80.

Sony is charging 30.7% more on European Pay Pigs.


And they can fuck right off for that.
 
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US equivalent is $104.61. Price in the US is $80.

Sony is charging 30.7% more on European Pay Pigs.


And they can fuck right off for that.
Missed the whole post and cherry picks. How much more is the basic controller?

Over the lifecycle of owning the PS5 Pro, a disc drive and buying controllers, how do they balance out?

Are you buying more than one disc drive and only 1 controller in your lifetime?