Yeah, himself and Chris Dring have nosedived in their tweets over the past 12 months. It feels strange. Sadly they are the two cunts who tell us the figures.
Matt Piscatella reacts to comment: Playing time is an irrelevant stat. What are you opinions?
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I think some people here are misunderstanding his tweet. He disagrees with the comment and thinks time played is a relevant stat.
I'm here to tell you it's not, under any circumstances. The only relevant thing to the continued survival of a business is whether their products are making any money.
To borrow another user's example, a massively hyped game could sell 5mil day one and those 5mil could play it for 10mins because it's a stinking turd. Oh well, the game makers have your money, for the most part.
A game about pirates could have 35 million players and 1 billion swashes buckled, and it might sell so poorly that they need to port it to other platforms to keep it alive.
One of these was a resounding success, and the other was Sea of Thieves.
I'm here to tell you it's not, under any circumstances. The only relevant thing to the continued survival of a business is whether their products are making any money.
To borrow another user's example, a massively hyped game could sell 5mil day one and those 5mil could play it for 10mins because it's a stinking turd. Oh well, the game makers have your money, for the most part.
A game about pirates could have 35 million players and 1 billion swashes buckled, and it might sell so poorly that they need to port it to other platforms to keep it alive.
One of these was a resounding success, and the other was Sea of Thieves.
Review scores, Copies sold, Money made are more important stat than hours played.
Hours played shows how addictive/playable a game is but games need to sell first to make money
Hours played shows how addictive/playable a game is but games need to sell first to make money
For GaaS players the amount of money spent on dlc/mtx/passes is basically proportional to the amount of days played (user retention). So this is the reason of why they add retention focused features and periodical post launch content. It's something that worked that way in hundreds of games. Particularly for F2P, user retention is the most important metric.
In big SP full priced blockbusters, very long games sell way better than the very short ones. Most people expect a big amount of hours for the bucks spent for the games.
In big SP full priced blockbusters, very long games sell way better than the very short ones. Most people expect a big amount of hours for the bucks spent for the games.
As with pretty much every other statistical value, context determines its importance.
As many before me pointed out, playtime for GaaS games = important.
Also, if a 50h SP game is averagely played for 1h, you know your game sucks.
As many before me pointed out, playtime for GaaS games = important.
Also, if a 50h SP game is averagely played for 1h, you know your game sucks.
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Yes I've mentioned he's making fun of the guy several times because others didn't realize it. He was being sarcastic.
Why it matters is a debate itself for sure. These are the returning hardcore players most likely to engage in actually spending dollars on dlc, expansion and/or micro transactions.
It also says a lot of about quality. For single player games, if player numbers are strong day after day … most likely players are enjoying it and playing to completion.
BUT… then you have devs like Ubisoft making everything the same open world game over and over pumped out of a recycling plant and that game design is intentionally meant to bloat timesink metrics and why it’s so popular to make.
All these things matter and for some games more than others.
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Nah, we calculate how many downloads and count them as players. Much better tracking metric!
- Phil Spencer
At this point they might even add all the user accounts associated with the hardware the game was downloaded on lol
every downloaded GB is count as 1 customer metric..
-Phil Spencer, the visionary, the inventor...
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MS are trialling a new system.
Player engagement multiplied by username.
Noobmaster69. 15 hours played x 69 = 1,035 hours
TheGreat1. 32 hours played x 1 = 32 hours
Xbox gamers spend on average 533 hours a month gaming.
Player engagement multiplied by username.
Noobmaster69. 15 hours played x 69 = 1,035 hours
TheGreat1. 32 hours played x 1 = 32 hours
Xbox gamers spend on average 533 hours a month gaming.
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DON'T give them ideas!!!