New Xbox Console Devkits are being tested in Korea

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A new machine needs a new Devkit. If this is true, its not for a discless Series X etc.

I still think Xbox is gonna try and release a pro model a year after PS5 Pro or announce something stronger as soon as Pro is out to try and kill the hype.
Or they are gonna go the 360 route and try and release there next gen alot quicker. MS is gonna try again, they just pretending to be out the console game I believe so they can probably make some more publisher and studio purchases
 

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Would they dare release an Xbox Series Pro variant? Sounds like and unbelievably poor decision. They are already barely moving any consoles and their games are now releasing on PlayStation.

This is MS, they arent smart. And they have tons of money. Dont underestimate how dumb they can be and how they can convince themselves and fans that another machine, pro or quick move to next gen will be amazing and beat PS.

They released the Series S as Project trojan, thinking it would be a big commercial success and have huge numbers because its cheap, and disguise numbers to match PS hence the name “Trojan Horse”
 
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Would they dare release an Xbox Series Pro variant? Sounds like and unbelievably poor decision. They are already barely moving any consoles and their games are now releasing on PlayStation.

There's no Series Pro variant.

Last year's FTC-Microsoft email leaks show they weren't planning to release the next generation until 2028. Sure, they're "old" slides as in they're a couple of years old, but there's no way they can change their minds and put out a new console SDK in that time frame.

There is indeed a new Series X Brooklin and Series S Ellewood coming this year but those are just new boxes using the same chips, so I don't know why they'd launch a new SDK for them.
 

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A new machine needs a new Devkit. If this is true, its not for a discless Series X etc.
There's a new controller coming out with decent haptics and gyro (?), the streamlined Series X is going to have new wifi6 hardware. Any component changes could result in needing a resubmission, but something directly involving RF more so. So it could be something as simple as there being enough changes to the existing kit to support these new features along with other streamlining and component changes that mean a simple revision wouldn't be enough and a new submission was necessary. Seeing it now lines up with a late '24 release for a consumer unit. IMO right now all the talk based off this tweet and listing is a huge reach - but that's understandable given the recent ps5 spec leaks and a desire xbox fans have not to be left behind once again.

I still think Xbox is gonna try and release a pro model a year after PS5 Pro or announce something stronger as soon as Pro is out to try and kill the hype.
Oh they've already said they're going to be running their mouths at the end of the year - they'll try their best with the spoiler tactics same as they did announcing the xb1x so ridiculously early and hyping up Hololens when it looked like PSVR gave Sony a huge plus point they couldn't counter (even if it had fuck all to do with xbox, wasn't a gaming device and would cost around 8x the price of a base console, didn't stop them).

As for bringing another last ditch Pro spec console in the dying years of a generation...? It didn't work last time (a little over 2.5 years on the market was pretty pathetic before it was scrapped prior to Series launch). And then all it succeeded in doing was allowing them to jam a foot in the door and stay sort of relevant. Going that route again would be disastrous.

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There's no Series Pro variant.

Last year's FTC-Microsoft email leaks show they weren't planning to release the next generation until 2028. Sure, they're "old" slides as in they're a couple of years old, but there's no way they can change their minds and put out a new console SDK in that time frame.

There is indeed a new Series X Brooklin and Series S Ellewood coming this year but those are just new boxes using the same chips, so I don't know why they'd launch a new SDK for them.
I don't know, an Xbox Series X Pro timed to release with GTAVI seems like the type of dumb move MS would try to pull.

The Series S put them in a terrible position where they are pretty much screwed no mater what they do. They pretty much played themselves out of the market.
 

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I don't know, an Xbox Series X Pro timed to release with GTAVI seems like the type of dumb move MS would try to pull.

It is something they could try to pull, but they can't conjure a new chip that didn't exist in any plan 2 years ago and never appeared in any production reports anywhere, up to the point where it's ready enough to appear in a new SDK.

Unless they're just making a console out of off-the-shelf PC components, which would be super expensive for Microsoft and for consumers.
 

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Could be for the rumored Xbox handheld, though I think MS and their fanbase are greatly overestimating how popular such a thing would be.
 

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It is something they could try to pull, but they can't conjure a new chip that didn't exist in any plan 2 years ago and never appeared in any production reports anywhere, up to the point where it's ready enough to appear in a new SDK.

Unless they're just making a console out of off-the-shelf PC components, which would be super expensive for Microsoft and for consumers.
Not true. Major Nelson admitted that the Xbox One wasn't planned, or even discussed, until 2011/12.
And before you say "needs more time for RnD etc" I agree, but Microsoft did that post launch. They believed the PS4 wouldn't exist or be so bad that they could dick around and no one would care.
Hence the 3 OS's working together and myriad changes over the first 12 months of launch.

It can be done in two years and I'm going to guess that Microsoft are looking for cost savings Vs performance improvements.
Series S, somehow, sold thrice as many as the series X.
A Series X for £300, £120 cheaper than the competition, is one hell of a deal. Doubly so in a time of financial hard ship.
 

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Not true. Major Nelson admitted that the Xbox One wasn't planned, or even discussed, until 2011/12.

Even if he said that, it just isn't possible... The planning, block building and and simulation alone takes about a year, tape-out of a new chip is around 8 months and then it takes periods of 3-6 months between production candidates and mass production. And then you'd need at least 6 months for packaging and assembly.

The X360 was developed in record time, had its IP suppliers (IBM+ATi) defined in August 2002 and a console released in November 2005... and even that came at a great cost to Microsoft because they didn't do the proper QA protocols leading to the Red Ring of Death.

And Microsoft believed the PS4 wouldn't exist? I mean really?!
 
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New xbox dev kits? That must be the ps5 pro devkit that xbox studios are working on now. remember kids every screen is an xbox /s
 
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I have an interesting leak about this MS new upcoming console:
  • It's name is Xbox XXX
  • Price $699.69
  • Release date: 6/9/23 (September 6th, 2023)
  • Cylindrical shape
  • Pornhub, Brazzers and Onlyfans subscription included in Game Pass
  • Phil Spencer quote included in the related internal mail: "After running out of all the possible big publisher acquisitions we made an extensive market research to grow beyond gaming. We realized that adult entertainment is the top grossing digital entertainment market and has a big overlap with gaming market. Nintendo targeted the younger gaming audience and Sony the mainstream movies, so we wanted to differientiate ourselves integrating adult entertainment into the future of Xbox. Starting this September Xbox will be not only in every screen, but also in every adult entertainment intrussive ad and popup.
 

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Even if he said that, it just isn't possible... The planning, block building and and simulation alone takes about a year, tape-out of a new chip is around 8 months and then it takes periods of 3-6 months between production candidates and mass production. And then you'd need at least 6 months for packaging and assembly.

The X360 was developed in record time, had its IP suppliers (IBM+ATi) defined in August 2002 and a console released in November 2005... and even that came at a great cost to Microsoft because they didn't do the proper QA protocols leading to the Red Ring of Death.

And Microsoft believed the PS4 wouldn't exist? I mean really?!
Without sounding like a dick, were you out of school (adult etc) during the 360 generation?
A lot of stuff happened during that time that many people don't remember or realise.

The Durango leaks (a document supposedly detailing the specs of the X1) that were slammed by everyone - and most called fake because of how bad the console sounded, turned out to be real. Major Nelson and co admitted the quick turn around in the X1.

The media, Microsoft and foolish gamers, were told/led to believe that Sony was bankrupt and PS4 wouldn't exist. They changed it to it would exist but it would be over priced and underpowered...exactly what the X1 was.

This led MS to a false sense of security and dragged the generation out. They released a revamped Xbox 360 in 2010, rather than a new console that would have sunk Sony.

So, much in the same vain, MS could and will release many SKUs, maybe some with very little notice like the Xbox 360 slim slim. (Not a typo).

I made a thread under another name, detailing how Microsoft release multiple SKUs in their generations and not one has been released, let alone launched, 3 years in. In the thread (iirc) I asked the question if MS would drop out of the hardware race or, more likely, make a Series SX and discontinued to previous SKUs.

Edit: Xbox 360 was rushed and corners cut for two main reasons; 1) Nvidia had them by the balls with the OG Xbox and were charging an arm and a leg to continue making the old tech, and 2) Peter Moore signed, what he calls "the biggest cheque of his career". It was $1 billion to increase the ram from 256 to 512mb unified. He signed it because cliffy B showed him a side by side comparison of gears of war running on both configurations.
 

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Could be for the rumored Xbox handheld, though I think MS and their fanbase are greatly overestimating how popular such a thing would be.
If Sony couldn’t even stand next to Nintendo in that market, I wonder why they think Microsoft can.
 
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Why would that need a new SDK though?
This sounds really strange, to be honest.



My hope is that this SDK is a hardware target for Windows handhelds with the Phoenix chip (ROG Ally, Legion Go, GPD Win3, etc.) running at e.g. 20W.
Under the laws in Korea,
all electronic devices in Korea must be certified by the National Radio Research Agency that there is no risk of harming the radio wave environment.
Without getting certified, you can't use the device in Korea.
 
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There's no Series Pro variant.

Last year's FTC-Microsoft email leaks show they weren't planning to release the next generation until 2028. Sure, they're "old" slides as in they're a couple of years old, but there's no way they can change their minds and put out a new console SDK in that time frame.

There is indeed a new Series X Brooklin and Series S Ellewood coming this year but those are just new boxes using the same chips, so I don't know why they'd launch a new SDK for them.
Updated Bluetooth & WiFi which can effect radio frequency
 

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Could be for the rumored Xbox handheld, though I think MS and their fanbase are greatly overestimating how popular such a thing would be.
It would be competing with Switch 2, Steam Deck 2, and the next Rog Ally. Good luck with that. Lol