Nintendo sue creators of emulator "Yuzu".

Petekilla

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Good. Most these emulator owners are pirating, despite them churning out the mumbo jumbo crap thats its legal. Most are playing pirated games and know it.
Time to pay for games like the rest of us
What a horrible take. I know Icon Era is anti PC, but Emulation is preservation. Emulation allows you to play games Nintendo would have no business re releasing 20 years down the road. If it wasn’t for Emulation people wouldn’t be playing Wind Wakee or Twilight Princess HD. You would still need a Wii U for that.
 

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Of course Icon Era is going defend Nintendo on this. They have this weird hatred for PC. Lol
 

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How deranged are you to defend Nintendo on stuffs like this.

By the way these guys run like yakuza, it has been like more than 10 years since they paid web providers and ISP to actively scan data pipeline to find their IPs in files to strike first in Japan.

All you have to do is download some JPEG files including keyword like Mario, Pokemon, they will sent you a warning email.

If you download a torrent file or ROM file without a proper VPN, basically you are screwed, ready for civil charges. Fucking insanity, cartel level of operations
Icon Era is anti PC, that’s why. Lol
 

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They haven't disappeared though. For old physical releases they are easy to find on ebay, you just have to pay for them (and if a game costs "too much" then that is a you problem, I think the SMRPG remake costs too much, that doesn't give me moral imperative to steal it.) Even digital only releases can be found for sale, non-pirated, if you know where to look. Nobody owes you access anyway.

As to the legal argument, this is settled law in the US, going back to Game Genie and DV64 cases in the US, as long as a device has a legitimate use AND wasn't made with illicit materials, such as code taken through an NDA violation, then it is legally acceptable.
But at some point the hardware that can run those games is going to die out.
 

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Of course Icon Era is going defend Nintendo on this. They have this weird hatred for PC. Lol

Icon Era isn't a hive mind. There's no "they" here. You think this is all about preservation. There is, however, a strong argument to be made that this is about piracy. Emulation facilitates both. Since we have no data on the people using Yuzu, it's difficult to get an accurate picture on why they are using it. There's also people who simply want to enjoy Nintendo games with better performance. It's a multi-faceted issue.

I can also see it from Nintendo's perspective.

 

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But at some point the hardware that can run those games is going to die out.
There's ways to keep them going (especially carts, disk rot is a one way street while battery saves can be replaced with standard lions.) Eventually the answer does become buying a re-release or accepting not having access to the game anymore. As to games themselves, pretty much every major company currently has data preservation specialists and Nintendo has been saving their stuff meticulously since day one in gaming.
 

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What a horrible take. I know Icon Era is anti PC, but Emulation is preservation. Emulation allows you to play games Nintendo would have no business re releasing 20 years down the road. If it wasn’t for Emulation people wouldn’t be playing Wind Wakee or Twilight Princess HD. You would still need a Wii U for that.

Nothinig to do with anti PC

This is s Switch emulator, people can go buy those games right now, nothing to do with Past games or preserving them. They are making money off selling a emulator and then 99% of the people using it are pirating those games.
Cheapskates need to buy the game, simple. Whether its Xbox, Nintendo, PS or PC games

Nintendo are assholes for alot of things. This isnt one of them, they have every right to protect there current games against pirates
 
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This is the company that tried to have 30-year-old issues of Nintendo Power taken off Internet Archive even though they don't offer their own way of viewing those issues.

There's already precedence that emulation is legal, so Nintendo will likely lose. Even if they somehow win, Yuzu is open source and so many people have it, it's completely impractical to actually stop usage of it in any meaningful capacity. This is purely a scare tactic.

Furthermore, this lawsuit seems less about copyright infringement and more about circumventing the console's DRM to make the emulator in the first place. But lots of emulators do that anyway. Yuzu is not special for doing this. And on top of all that, if you read the legal documents, Nintendo outright admits they want to corner and monopolize the ability to play old Nintendo games on new hardware, which is completely infeasible because there's over 3000 NES and SNES games and only about 150 of them are on NSO. Do we actually believe Nintendo will put the rest of them on there? Do they own sellable versions of every single one of those games that they can put on the NSO? And if they do, can they guarantee access to them forever?

Fuck off, Nintendo.
 
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