| OT | PlayStation 5 Pro: 45% Faster, Released November 7

[mibu no ookami]

The Pro exposed many impostor “PCMR” dudes who don't know even the most basic things about how a computer system works.

Sony hate always has multiple camps involved.

• There are people who are angry that they can't afford the PS5 Pro or their parents won't buy it for them (some of them being grown adults)
• There are the phony PCMR people you mentioned who might have a PC but not a top of the line one or maybe they're Xbox fanboys, but we'll get to them in a minute
• There are real PCMR fanboys who hate how much they spent on their rig only for the PS5 Pro to get close at a fraction of the cost
• There are Xbox fanboys angry that Microsoft has elected not to make a Pro console
• There are Nintendo fanboys who are just happy to be able to criticize sony, but in the back of their minds probably know Switch 2 is going to cost a mint
• There are journalist/influencers who are either paid shills, fanboys, or at the very least want the console wars to go on for as long as possible to protect their bottom line
  • The entire Xbox community is built around shills and its also why Microsoft finds themselves in the position they're in
  • The day that Halo Infinite, Halo Infinite 2, Halo 6, Halo 1 remake, or Halo MCC drops on PS5 and plays better on PS5 Pro, the console war is over, this is just a fact (it's already over but this will be symbolic)

 

[quest4441]

All I am going to say is the blame falls squarely on Sony's feet. They could have released gameplay clips of pro vs base ps5 for 3rd party games but we get SM2 and TLoU lol, these fuckers don't realize that people are just sick of TloU with the remakes, remasters, tv show etc etc.

They have trash communication + some god tier LAZY DEVS who can't be bothered to put out trailers. Its hilarious that independent 3rd parties are doing more to defend and justify pro than sony itself.

Cartoons are running the show at SIE marketing and World wide studios, I hope someone sane at SIE realizes that no one wants a Pro to play SM2 and TLoU at slightly better graphics, Show fucking Rebirth and Cyberpunk.

Now watch them disappoint again at SoP and show some trash indies and PC port trailers

 

[Killer_Sakoman]

All I am going to say is the blame falls squarely on Sony's feet. They could have released gameplay clips of pro vs base ps5 for 3rd party games but we get SM2 and TLoU lol, these fuckers don't realize that people are just sick of TloU with the remakes, remasters, tv show etc etc.

They have trash communication + some god tier LAZY DEVS who can't be bothered to put out trailers. Its hilarious that independent 3rd parties are doing more to defend and justify pro than sony itself.

Cartoons are running the show at SIE marketing and World wide studios, I hope someone sane at SIE realizes that no one wants a Pro to play SM2 and TLoU at slightly better graphics, Show fucking Rebirth and Cyberpunk.

Now watch them disappoint again at SoP and show some trash indies and PC port trailers

Unfortunately, SIE studios are dealing with the damage caused by the GaaS push and the unnecessary ultra open worlds they have to accomplish in their single player games to earn the AAAA status. They can't show anything.
Sony's marketing has also been completely fucked up at least since that weird 2018 E3. The choice to go with CNET for the reveal of an important console is a questionable decision. They should've went with digital foundary despite their shortcoming.

 

[Yobo]

Unfortunately, SIE studios are dealing with the damage caused by the GaaS push and the unnecessary ultra open worlds they have to accomplish in their single player games to earn the AAAA status. They can't show anything.
Sony's marketing has also been completely fucked up at least since that weird 2018 E3. The choice to go with CNET for the reveal of an important console is a questionable decision. They should've went with digital foundary despite their shortcoming.

Very strange I didn't even realise CNET existed still

 

[mibu no ookami]

Unfortunately, SIE studios are dealing with the damage caused by the GaaS push and the unnecessary ultra open worlds they have to accomplish in their single player games to earn the AAAA status. They can't show anything.
Sony's marketing has also been completely fucked up at least since that weird 2018 E3. The choice to go with CNET for the reveal of an important console is a questionable decision. They should've went with digital foundary despite their shortcoming.

How is PS5 selling so well if their marketing has been completely fucked up?

Damaged caused by GaaS push? Helldivers is one of their most successful games ever.

Sony's open world games sell tremendously well...

Sony went with CNET because DF has been taking the piss for years. Marketing teams communicate with sources like DF via decisions like this. If they continue to take the piss they won't get the PS6 or PlayStation handheld either. They can become more neutral in their tone and things can change.

CNET got a lot of views as a result of that. 305K views in 5 days for a site generally in decline.

People are complaining that sony hasn't released specs. They'll release specs when they want to and they'll probably do a tear down when/if they want to.

You've already seen companies like Remedy are already planning to do their own individual marketing for PS5 Pro enhanced games. Sony rightfully knew there couldn't be a successful reveal of the PS5 Pro given the price. You were going to have people angry on top of the normal xbox, pcmr fanboy response.

Instead, they'll let the narrative change organically and with the 30th anniversary of PlayStation.

 

[Bryank75]

 

[ToTTenTranz]

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It's strange that the person making this table would oversee the Infinity Cache on the Navi 32 solutions, considering the huge difference it makes on effective bandwidth.

 

[Airbus]

The amount of astroturfing on neogaf, resetera, ign, etc when xbox series x came out were so great back then

Like...holy shit....the amount of shilling done by phil spencer dickrider were unbearable and anyone who said bad thing get banned

So here i am...sitting reacting to all these negative news by journalist and media on ps5pro and be like...fuck that shit...these are so rigged, one sided and biassed....im getting ps5pro

 

[Bryank75]

It's strange that the person making this table would oversee the Infinity Cache on the Navi 32 solutions, considering the huge difference it makes on effective bandwidth.

Good point.

Either way, the actual performance needs to be done on a swath of games for real comparison.

Consoles are not directly comparable to gpus from a spec sheet. Imo

 

[Umar]

Nintendrones just have to get their filthy hands involved

 

[Entropi]

These memes never fail to make me laugh.

 

[Landiri]

The amount of astroturfing on neogaf, resetera, ign, etc when xbox series x came out were so great back then

Like...holy shit....the amount of shilling done by phil spencer dickrider were unbearable and anyone who said bad thing get banned

So here i am...sitting reacting to all these negative news by journalist and media on ps5pro and be like...fuck that shit...these are so rigged, one sided and biassed....im getting ps5pro

Xbox's image is so bad now...
Xbox is like the toxic rich kid on the schoolyard, that nobody likes, except some dependant bootlickers.

Sony/Nintendo need to just exist, to make Xbox look bad.

 

[Systemshock2023]

C'mon really? Nintendo using that humble bundle tier game as ammo?

Nintendrones just have to get their filthy hands involved

 

[Entropi]

The amount of astroturfing on neogaf, resetera, ign, etc when xbox series x came out were so great back then

Like...holy shit....the amount of shilling done by phil spencer dickrider were unbearable and anyone who said bad thing get banned

So here i am...sitting reacting to all these negative news by journalist and media on ps5pro and be like...fuck that shit...these are so rigged, one sided and biassed....im getting ps5pro

The “lack of competition” articles are hilariously blatant. We know who wrote those. Maybe MS shouldn't have tried competing with Amazon and Google and instead focused on the console market.

 

[Fenton]

 

[Umar]

 

[Shmunter]

I need to know if the digital skew is effected by dlc and microtransactions.

A physical presence is in itself marketing by being in brick and mortar retail. Kill that and you lose that aspect.

Physical also sets console apart from PC. But it’s even worse, lose physical on console and you’re at the mercy of a single point of sale, the one digital store. On pc you can buy from any number of places. This will erode consoles over time to an extent.

Slippery slope.

 

[Johnic]

Again, false. That data makes no distinction between full games and DLC, skewing the reaults.

 

[Gediminas]

Again, false. That data makes no distinction between full games and DLC, skewing the reaults.

The guy just spread the FUD. We can clearly see, he ain't checking data.
That capcom 90% is straight up nonsense.

 

[Puff]

The beginning of the end?​

The traditional game console business model is rapidly being deprecated by the rise of online and mobile gaming. Nintendo Co. foresaw it with its hybrid Switch, which works both at home with a TV and on the move, while Microsoft Corp.’s spending more time on building a cloud service than chasing Xbox exclusives.

Smartphones, tablets and smart TVs are all now capable of either playing beautiful, high-definition games or — as Microsoft sees the future — streaming them via the internet from massive data centers hundreds of miles away. Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Nathan Naidu sees ads and subscriptions booming as the dominant way to monetize games this decade, with cloud gaming washing away the traditional console.