PlayStation Announces Its Lineup For ChinaJoy 2024:
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When is Sony gonna bank on these gacha seriously. After the success of Genshin, Honkai Star, ZZZ & the countless of other gacha games coming to PS5.
Sony needs to buy more mobile studio. Especially in Korea. There’s great talent & these Korean mobile studios have huge potential.
PS give me a inFAMOUS gacha game open world w a focus on in story telling & PVEVP. Imagine an open world & you see people parkouring like a full mmo with all the neon lights in the style of genshin (anime) release it on PS consoles & mobile (iOS/android)
Or a Demon Slayer gacha game. A huge pile of money is literally just sitting there for Sony to extract. It’s such a miss opportunity for PS to not have multiple first party mobile studios that can make those anime waifu gacha type games.
Sony needs to buy more mobile studio. Especially in Korea. There’s great talent & these Korean mobile studios have huge potential.
PS give me a inFAMOUS gacha game open world w a focus on in story telling & PVEVP. Imagine an open world & you see people parkouring like a full mmo with all the neon lights in the style of genshin (anime) release it on PS consoles & mobile (iOS/android)
Or a Demon Slayer gacha game. A huge pile of money is literally just sitting there for Sony to extract. It’s such a miss opportunity for PS to not have multiple first party mobile studios that can make those anime waifu gacha type games.
They already are, they have every Hoyoverse game playable on PS4/5 as well as Wuthering Waves. And Aniplex, a Sony subsidiary, ALREADY has the most popular mobile gacha game......
They're getting a cut for every mtx bought on those games which is probably equivalent to CoD/Fortnite money, if not more. There's no need for PlayStation (not Sony) to make their own, these games are expensive to maintain and I'd rather have those resources diverted to actual good games and not casino simulators.
Lol first you wanted them to do EVEN MORE gaas and now you want them to buy more mobile studios?
Are you really a PlayStation fan?? That crap isn't what makes PlayStation great, cut it outSony subsidiary Aniplex is already making successful gacha games and they should stay separate from PlayStation. PlayStation 1st party should ONLY be dedicated to....wait for it........ PLAYSTATION!!!!!! You know....the CONSOLE.....focus on console AAA bangers, not mobile casino slop!! Mobile is of much as a waste and distraction as PC. And their legendary IP like Infamous should never be associated with that crap EVER. Show some respect
The good old rely on 3rd parties for live service.
As we haven’t learn a lesson thru the entire Zenimax & ABK acquisition.
PS has Hoyoverse games available on PS4 & PS5 rn yes but in the future will it remain? I can see these mobile gacha studios such as Hoyoverse focus on mobile & Nintendo releasing there games on this platform day one without needing a deal unlike PS. There’s also no guarantee because Sony doesn’t own Hoyoverse that they’ll continue to release games day 1 on PS for instance ZZZ release day 1 across PS, PC & mobile but that’s only because Hoyoverse took the deal (which is free money because these gacha games probably can’t run on Nintendo & Xbox is dead).
Ah yes the PS only needs to focus on singleplayer notion. It says a lot when Nintendo who’s mindset & business model remain slow/traditional is more dominant & has a bigger foothold in live service then PS. That’s pretty embarrassing & from a business standpoint extremely scary for the future of growth, profit & remaining relevant with the younger generation/market that wouldn’t traditionally play your games/ip if it hadn’t be expanded to mobile devicesLol first you wanted them to do EVEN MORE gaas and now you want them to buy more mobile studios?
Sony subsidiary Aniplex is already making successful gacha games and they should stay separate from PlayStation. PlayStation 1st party should ONLY be dedicated to....wait for it........ PLAYSTATION!!!!!! You know....the CONSOLE.....focus on console AAA bangers, not mobile casino slop!! Mobile is of much as a waste and distraction as PC. And their legendary IP like Infamous should never be associated with that crap EVER. Show some respect
What did we learn from Zenimax and ABK?
Last time I checked, CoD is still coming to PlayStation...which just proves that PlayStation is too big to ignore, and that was Sony's largest competitor. If their biggest competitor didn't abandon their platform, you think their longtime partners will??? Cmon bro Xbox literally said they wanted to spend Sony out of business but still ended up bending the knee....Sony isnt under any threat of losing any 3rd party game, AT ALL. The only threat to Sony is their stupid management Nintendo doesn't have the 3rd party support that PlayStation does, and Sony doesn't have the 1st party power that Nintendo does where they can endlessly milk their IP forever no matter how mid the games are. These are not equal platforms and they don't have equal problems!!
What we learn is that someone can buy a independent publisher & take games aways ie HIFI Rush, Starfield etc & if it wasn’t for Xbox terrible decision they would’ve made doom & COD exclusive to Xbox.What did we learn from Zenimax and ABK?
PS isn’t too big to ignore. PC is bigger than PS. Steam is bigger than PS. Nintendo is bigger than PS. Apple & Meta is bigger than PS. All of them have their own platform with exclusive content & at anytime they can buy a publisher or studio & no longer release there games on PS. Who’s to say meta buys a publisher to bolster it’s exclusive content & we just say Ubisoft was acquired by Meta & Ubisoft games like Assasin Creed, Tom Clancy etc was exclusive to Meta/Quest they don’t need PS to sell games what if Apple buys a gaming studio or publisher like Sega & make Sonic, Persona & Yakuza exclusive to Apple devices. Apple doesn’t need PS to sell games or make profit. Only a delusional PS fan like you would think PS is bigger than any of these platforms or companies.
Just like how people say PS needs to buy studios or a major publisher to secure games/ip it all comes back to securing your future & securing exclusive content & owning the ip & studio. People say PS needs to buy Square or Fromsoft/Kadokawa & if it happen just like that those would likely not come day n date on Xbox, PC & Nintendo.
It’s all about competition & Sony buying mobile studio to make gacha games at a first party level whether it’s new ip or existing ip is a good thing since in markets like China Chinese gamers don’t care or play games like GOW, Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank & instead play these anime/waifu gacha games. And PS expanding into these markets is a good thing the fact you want PS to remain stagnant & reject buying new studios to make more games for the PS console is comical since most of these gacha games are focus on singleplayer storytelling
Huh?
HiFi Rush is on PlayStation and Starfield will be soon too. (Even tho that game is garbage and we don't want it) Why are you lying?
When it comes to 90% AAA games, PC is a non factor, it's an extra 5%-10% at best, 90% of 3rd party games outsell 5:1 or more on PS4/5. PlayStation literally carries the AAA market on it's back. Nintendo doesn't even get most AAA 3rd party games. Apple is purely mobile and don't directly compete with PS, and Meta VR is barely focused on gaming. Mostly just "social features" and stealing customer data to sell it to the highest bidder Nothing you're saying makes any sense. You can add Valve, Nintendo, and Meta yearly gaming revenue and it will still be less than PlayStations. Obviously not Apple because they have a duopoly on mobile gaming, but again, they're not a direct PlayStation competitor (at least not yet). And notice how Apple and Google make just as much money as Sony in gaming without making games or acquiring gaming studio
Why? Because they have a massive install base, which is what Sony should be looking to do. So stop saying they need to make gaas or mobile games....that's not where the real money is at. Make great single player exclusives, grow install base, get 30% cut of everything else, it's simple. If there does come a day where Apple enters the console space, they will destroy Sony. I've already said this a long time ago and it's not because Sony isn't buying everything up, it's because they've had incompetent leadership since 2019 in Jim and Hermen. But who knows if/when that will happen, no point in dwelling on it.
Yeah....I'm the delusional one
Nintendo is definitely bigger than PlayStation 
So what? Sony is doing good by getting all these gacha garbage on PS5 and pushing it in China. A PS5 is cheaper than gaming PCs and a high end cellphone. That is the best way to grow in the long term in Asia, not by devaluing your legendary IP by turning them into casino slop. You are just like the people in charge at Sony, you have no respect for what PlayStation is about and you have the same short sighted thinking that is currently destroying PlayStation.
Your literally proving me right.Huh?
Why are you lying?
You can add Valve, Nintendo, and Meta yearly gaming revenue and it will still be less than PlayStations. Obviously not Apple because they have a duopoly on mobile gaming, but again, they're not a direct PlayStation competitor (at least not yet). And notice how Apple and Google make just as much money as Sony in gaming without making games or acquiring gaming studio
If there does come a day where Apple enters the console space, they will destroy Sony. I've already said this a long time ago and it's not because Sony isn't buying everything up, it's because they've had incompetent leadership since 2019 in Jim and Hermen. But who knows if/when that will happen, no point in dwelling on it.
Yeah....I'm the delusional one
So what? Sony is doing good by getting all these gacha garbage on PS5 and pushing it in China. A PS5 is cheaper than gaming PCs and a high end cellphone. That is the best way to grow in the long term in Asia, not by devaluing your legendary IP by turning them into casino slop. You are just like the people in charge at Sony, you have no respect for what PlayStation is about and you have the same short sighted thinking that is currently destroying PlayStation.
By advocating for no multiplayer games your inherently advocating for less PS games.
Ah yes, because we had no games during the PS4 gen....
bro take your L and please stop spreading nonsense! What happened to you, you always used to speak the truth and had good thoughts, now you just sound like a corporate concubine.... Were you hacked by Jim Ryan? or Hulst? or Totoki?Sad to see folks (not on Iconera, but other s**thole forums and YT) dunking on these games. Its not all going to be incredible, 11/10 games right out of the gate, especially for a market that doesn't have development prowess, huge budgets, etc. The same way Brazil, India, Eastern Europe and Africa are still getting there. But, over time, and with careful nurturing and support (which PS seems to be the only one doing), it means better quality in the future.
Can you imagine if people were this negative towards Naughty Dog, CDProject Red, Rockstar, etc. when they started out?
Can you imagine if people were this negative towards Naughty Dog, CDProject Red, Rockstar, etc. when they started out?
But Sony 1st party us investing in live service, what more do you want? Concord is the best new pvp I've played in years, Helldivers 2 best coop in years.
That would be very good to see... But I think maybe next year so will Sony have an event in the US... Like maybe PSX 2025 or something else.
The booth and related activities they did look great. The Gematsu channel has additional videos with talks of the devs showing and explaining the different games.
Regarding USA, they at least had an Astrobot focused presence with smaller booths in the Summer Doritos Fest and EVO.
I'd love to see an EU equivalent of the ChinaJoy booth. But seeing that they are skipping GamesCom I think they won't have any booth with playable demos for customers in any western event for the rest of the year.
I assume that for the rest of the year their only meaningful presence with a public booth is going to be the TGS one, highlighting that in recent times they're making special efforts to grow in Asia.