Great sales in the US, and Sony will continue to eat into Xbox's marketshare.
PS5 hardware sales 8% ahead of the PS4 in the US -- launch aligned
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I wouldn't take Colin as a serious source on this topic insofar as dismissing out-of-ecosystem platforms like Steam encroaching on potential growth of PlayStation in light of potentially Day 1 for all games.
In fact IIRC he was one of the people saying Day 1 on Steam for all SIE games would be "perfectly fine". And in that case, I feel he is vastly misreading and underestimating the impact that has had on Xbox's prospects as a console hardware platform.
Again, it's not that it's the ONLY factor or even the BIGGEST factor in isolation. It's that it is not a non-zero factor, and its effect can be magnified by other issues within the console platform ecosystem (a reality that is 100% present with Xbox, BTW).
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Just remember Sony wanted the PS5 to be at 63 million by the end of the march
Based on tailwinds from pent up demand. What exactly does that have to do with PS4 or PC?
Even when they said it, many of of us said the number was unrealistic. They could have hit it if they wanted to. They decided to focus on operating income rather than units sold and they still are.
They could absolutely drop the price of the PS5 in Europe, the only major region where PS5 is significantly behind the PS4.
They're just not in a rush to do it to prove to you somehow that the PS5 is in good shape... They'll still get those European sales on the back end. People will migrate from CoD and EA FC on PS4 to PS5 continuously, especially when the previous platform is no longer supported.
The trajectory for PS5 does not need to outpace the PS4 significantly at this point to significantly outsell it before it is discontinued.
Again, how do you ignore the following
- No Pro model yet (a year behind)
- No price drop (actually the opposite)
- GTA6 release
- No pandemic supply constraints that killed the PS4 off early
Doomers? Please be serious, we are all PS fans here and want to see the platform succeed. Obviously some things Sony are currently doing doesn't sit right with us and it has negatively impacted the brand.
The fact PS5 is struggling to surpass the PS4 even without a price cut is a huge red flag. By years end they will only be ahead of the PS4 in North America, they would have fallen behind everywhere else... It's not a good look.
Only way the PS5 sells more than the PS4 is if they keep the system active for another 6 years and continue to manufacture it. And that's a big IF
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Can you explain why they're ahead in North America and Japan if the brand has been negatively impacted?
Even without a price cut? LOL... why is this a red flag? Something is more expensive, you wouldn't normally expect for it to sell better...
Again, Sony doesn't have to rush to sell this. I asked for people to answer the questions and that has been ignored for the same hysterics.
The PS5 will continue to sell for years after the PS4 though. The PS4 was cut down by the pandemic and supply restraints that needed to focus on PS5. So again it already looks like you're hedging.
They won't be ahead in Japan by years end. It was clear a lot of the PS5 's did not stay in Japan either. Now they are almost 60% down YOY in Japan.
There's a thing called momentum and price cannot destroy that and that's why Sony was expecting to surpass PS4 last Fall... Until they derailed their own momentum last Spring.
Doesn't have to rush? Sony is the one who said they wanted to get PS4 owners over to PS5 and at unprecedented pace... You're delirious if you think they are happy PS4 owners aren't budging and XBox owners aren't jumping ship to them.
The PS5 make or break year for its 2nd half life cycle is next year, so we shall see.
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Let's not forget their guidance for FY2024 is already lower than PS4s FY17. I'm not entirely sure they'll even be able to reach 18M.
They're definitely not reaching 18 million unless the pull a massive hat trick this Black Friday / Xmas.
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Again, it was actually the exact same forecast. PS4 outperformed forecast by a million units.
Break it down.
How many PS5 Pros sell this fiscal year and what percent lower is PS5 this year over last year.
Would love to get you on record.
I didn't say FY2017 was a forecast though. Guidance vs effective, with the later being implied.