Rare moment of lucidity by pcmr on reddit
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I'm a PC gamer lol
video games are better nowadays than they've ever been (generally speaking)
play something other than aaa garbo.
What agenda would that be.
Cope harder. You swallow any old shite given you. Aren't you the guy praising Sony this gen?
Imagine trying to take the moral high ground then letting the mask slip.
Like I said a few weeks ago, your opinion is worthless and can be discarded.
I'm a pc gamer. It's always been great to be a pc gamer. I don't play AAA shite because it's shite.
Video games, generally speaking are not better than ever.
Video games, at one point in time, did not have standardized camera controls for third person display. There was no standardized WASD to move mouse to look around. They displayed on shitty fuzzy crt displays at low resolution, and games were generally a lot more of a crapshoot as to whether or not they'd run on a PC setup.
I think you should broaden your horizons in terms of video games if you think modern gaming sucks
Play the Atelier Ryza trilogy. Play Furyu titles like Reynatis and Crymachina. Play a quality indie title like Nine Sols or Kitsune Tails, You play the new Dragon Quest Monsters yet? What about Bakeru, Rain Code, or EDF 6?
I don't do moral high grounds. Also my favorite publishers (Sony, Sega, Square, Capcom, FROM, Nintendo) have all delivered incredible games this gen. I see nothing to complain about when it comes to any of these publishers. If you describe the games I paid for this year alone as "slop" then that's moreso you issue than mine.
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I've got good games on the back burner and I'm playing a banger at the moment. A b-tier rogue like (which I usually get bored of quite quickly) but it's a great story, very fun gameplay.
I don't mind games that were a crapshoot, that made finding the diamonds more fun. Don't misunderstand me saying modern gaming is shite and there are no games.
Modern gaming is shite and we get diamonds now and then, but that's on PC, which have never been a bad platform to play on.
However, the whole industry has lost the risky edginess it once had. It's all too safe and comfortable. While some good games come out, I miss the wild west renegade years.
Console gaming is dead though. It's stagnant and slop.
If you think gaming is dead even with PC, then the problem is indeed you, no matter what mental gymnastics you use to spin it. You are a closeminded individual.... it's okay to accept that
Today my pc (he also have a ps5) buddy sent me:
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7800X3D
32GB Ram
2TB + 1TB SSD
1200W psu
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And the price tag is (no lies) 1912$
I ask him why it's so much without gpu but once he started explaining, it all made sense. I build pcs exactly the same way he does. I just have not done it since adding 3080 to my pc on it's release.
He has 5700x (not 3d) cpu.... but he likes to play some vr and especially racing simes which are cpu demanding, so switching to 5800x3d is barely worth it. it must be 7800x3d.
2tb + 1tb... one for windows, one for games. of course. no problem. Also news pcie standard than he has installed.
PSU 1200w to be ready for 5080 pc. but also not much more expensive than 800w psu.
AIO cooling because hell you dont want shit cooling in a pc like that.
and x670e mobo. He wants to be ready for pcie x5 and have wifi. Cheap boards don't support that with more slots used for ssd etc (south bridge bandwidth issue).
So yeah. It makes total sense. You start with mid reasonable build but every new component is so close.
And he already have 4080 which is great but with games he plays, it could be more.
I kinda got tired of constant chasing the performance and moved to consoles myself
"
7800X3D
32GB Ram
2TB + 1TB SSD
1200W psu
"
And the price tag is (no lies) 1912$
I ask him why it's so much without gpu but once he started explaining, it all made sense. I build pcs exactly the same way he does. I just have not done it since adding 3080 to my pc on it's release.
He has 5700x (not 3d) cpu.... but he likes to play some vr and especially racing simes which are cpu demanding, so switching to 5800x3d is barely worth it. it must be 7800x3d.
2tb + 1tb... one for windows, one for games. of course. no problem. Also news pcie standard than he has installed.
PSU 1200w to be ready for 5080 pc. but also not much more expensive than 800w psu.
AIO cooling because hell you dont want shit cooling in a pc like that.
and x670e mobo. He wants to be ready for pcie x5 and have wifi. Cheap boards don't support that with more slots used for ssd etc (south bridge bandwidth issue).
So yeah. It makes total sense. You start with mid reasonable build but every new component is so close.
And he already have 4080 which is great but with games he plays, it could be more.
I kinda got tired of constant chasing the performance and moved to consoles myself
Delusion.
console gaming is THE BEST it has ever been comparatively to pc.
We get 4k, 60 and even 120fps. vrr, 120hz support. Least drawbacks.
On ps5 you get full dualense haptics wirelessly (on pc only wired and not all haptic layers)
You get 3d audio seamless on headphones on ps5
physical discs too (although dying).
You show same game side by side and never before, console was looking so close to high end pcs.
With consoles being better when it comes to stutter and sometimes loading times.
The fact that there are way less games and new ips coming out is true. We had more game sin 2011 alone on 360 and ps3 than whole ps4 and ps5 genb together it feels lol.
But it is what it is and this also affects pc gaming same way
What confuses me is how he says modern gaming is slop "except" for PC which is odd considering 90% of premium games come to both console and PC.
Those aren't reasons why games are better, just bells and whistles. 4k is pointless if the game is turd. Super-resolution shit is still shit.
And yet, still shite this gen. The PS5 is very powerful and a great piece of tech, wasted because it has two exclusives.
So we have fewer games of both quantity and quality but it's ok because it's just better nowadays?
Graphics sell. Otherwise why silent hill remake is selling and not the original?
Anyway. We get less games and I wouldn't say of worse quality. you just played all these games before.
Was there Elden Ring on 360? Was there hogwarts legacy? no. we still get great games. maybe not 100 each year but 10.
But we still get these. ac6 is amazing, stellar blade is amazing, I love these remasters and remakes too.
Discussion started with "oh gaming is so much worse on ps5 than pc" which I say it's bs because this console is essentially undistinguishable from high end pc if you don't squint. And most games come out here and here. So what's so worse about state of gaming industry on ps5 rather than pc?
If anything, I would argue that pc is turning into pay2win mmo and gaas cancer but then, these sometimes come to ps5 too.
I play on ps5 and I don't feel like I am missing anything this gen. I am getting a full experience of this gen on ps5 being what this gen is.
you don't need exclusives to justify a console. I have a good pc too, so if 1 or 3 titles dont come to ps5, I just play them on pc... and other way around
Graphics are nostalgia bait. We used to wonder what mint graphics would look like 20 years ago, now we have them the innovation has stagnated.
Physics? Partical effects? Massive enemy groups? Clever ai? Nahh, slap it in 4k with fancy shadows and call it a day. Forget 60fps as standard, let alone 120+
Each to their own but ER was more stale than the other souls games. The series peaked with Bloodborne.
AC is ubislop and I won't touch it. Stellar blade was great and I agree, more games like that please. Passion projects over corporate cookie cutter crap.
PC is Schroedinger's platform, it can be whatever you want it to be. PS5 being so close to PC isn't a good thing if Sony won't take the final push to open it up like a PC. Otherwise it becomes a cucked closed platform unable to keep up and loses it's identity.
Off topic but consoles have hit a problem where sales are tanking so they try and get more audience which backfires and pushes people to PC or Switch.
Good exclusives make a console, that and convenience are all consoles have. Once you take away exclusives, you've got convenience, but for the price of a PC and Innovations like Big Picture mode (from boot) on PC, coupled with inconvenience of day one patches, queues and broken games, consoles' value proposition is getting worse.
