Saber Interactive leaving Embracer in $500 mil deal to become private. |UP| Embracer confirms sale..

Zzero

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Thqn used to make solid low budget games, what happened
Bad pay/working conditions meant lots of talent churn, they tried to play hardball a little too hard with successful non-owned devs (example: Techland, who made Dead Island 1 and then left the series due to bad proposals from them), 90s nostalgia being okay for remakes but not new titles (BfBB vs Cosmic Shake), their Euro-jank titles just not adopting modern quality/difficulty curve standards (compare Gothic 1 and 2 to Elex 1 and 2, no progress has been made.)

Edit: Also, lack of oversight. There was a lot of cooperation between the divisions, like Saber porting THQ dev stuff or THQ publishing Plaion-developed stuff. But it wasn't mandated from the top, there was no over-arching vision for what the games were supposed to be and the result is a lot of lowest common denominator stuff. What bright spots there are (Saber, Coffeestain, Asmodee) are because of their own drive, not any sort of push for quality or output. The most telling thing to me is that Asmodee (the world's leading modern board game company) was purchased for as much as the entire company ended up being worth a few year or two later. Investors have no interest in a company who's product is random generic stuff. Nobody is going to believe in all of the stuff. It just doesn't make sense to keep it all together.
 
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KOTOR should be given to a studio who knows what they are doing. Its a goat, it deserves much better.
Like bluepoint, Ex mass effect staff
 
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Sony didn’t back out? Was that just rumor? I was kinda hoping they were… this screams vaporware since day one.
 
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Hopefully they did & got a refund from Disney for letting that studio make it lol
I think there is a contract in hands.
That is the only way I can see a Developer continuing the development of a 3rd-party IP after they shift hands.

When I said contract in hand is between Saber, Disney and Sony.
 
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I think there is a contract in hands.
That is the only way I can see a Developer continuing the development of a 3rd-party IP after they shift hands.

When I said contract in hand is between Saber, Disney and Sony.
I dunno Sony would be stupid to sign a contract if they couldn't back out when it's a 3rd party if it was 1st party it would probably be releasing this year
 

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I dunno Sony would be stupid to sign a contract if they couldn't back out when it's a 3rd party if it was 1st party it would probably be releasing this year
To announce as exclusive they signed a contract…

Due some clauses Sony can indeed back up.
But as Saber will continue the development the contract is still active.