OK, Seriously! Different people have been defending Sony out the ass, essentially saying 'but, but, but... current market share/social media engagement'. Seems so short sighted by both the company, and it's defenders. This move by TenCent is just the latest - alongside things like Microsoft's $77B, and Embracer's hydra-like sub-publisher spending sprees. That's without Disney, Amazon, Google, Apple, NetEase, Saudi Royalty, and who knows whom else, deciding to make a more serious, deeper, sharper cut out of the industry with their individual machinations. I think Sony are dead and most don't know it yet. If Sony keep bumble-fucking around there'll be nothing left when they finally decide to get serious.
When devs/pubs are getting bought by others and you lose PS-associated games from it (either 1st paty former exclusive ends-up elsewhere, a 3rd party dev goes multiplatform, or their ability to contribute to Sony's future PS/VR library is taken away like with RAD, and Sony's offerings are poorer for it); and then we look and see things like GPD Win 4 literally looking like an improved Vita. By right, that thing (minus slide screen for windows 11 keyboard), should have been the first PS Vita revision instead of simply nerfing the OLED screen. It should have been a PS4-focused follow-up companion device which evolved the handheld market (double shoulders, clicky sticks etc in about 2014/5, instead of the PS(Vita)TV.
And that's really where I'm at. Haven't seen many games making the PS5 worthy of purchase (taking advantage of the machine itself's advantages). And instead of a PS Vita successor we got a phone-streaming-cooling-fan (WTF!?). My confidence in their decision-making/strategic ability, or indeed want to see this company continue to succeeed, in the face of their continued fuck-ups, is long past the point of turning sour now.
All Sony seem to want to talk about is PC and PS4 - FUCKING STILL!
Ok then. I'll get PS exclusive IPs on PC when you put them there, which you will, and then I don't need a PS5 or PS6. I'm not buying a PSVR2, apparently the games aren't backwards compatable. It'd just be just another in a long line of stillborn hardware/service shat-out and then not supported fully, after such luminaries as Xperia Play, minis, MediaPlayGo, PS Vita, PSVitaTV, PSVUE, PSNow, PS+++ rebrand etc. They fucked-up so many things, and even more not capitalized-on others, or have missed opportunities. You're not offering a PSP4, so I guess I gotta go mod the GPD Win 4 to have the PS games I want it to, made portable.
I'm serious if I get pushed to PC/GPDWin4:
1. I'm not coming back to consoles.
2. For the amount of ballache modding hardware/software involved, I'm paying as little as I can to do so.
Calm down bro xD. I don't see how Shawn Layden going to Tencent as an advisor, has ANY bearing on the things you're bringing up.
Not saying those point's aren't worth discussing: I think a lot of them are. But Shawn Layden going to Tencent has no bearing on any of the things mentioned in your post.
My crystal ball says Tencent exclusive on PlayStation in the coming years….
Nah. Didn't Sony pick up a couple of ex-Capcom people not too long ago? Yet SFVI and RE Remake are both multiplat releases. I don't think there's a direct correlation.
Honestly I think this move from Tencent is to look like the good guy not the villain. Expect relationships between Sony and them to get better not worse. Also this helps their image.
If they are truly trying to get away from the Chinese Republican Party scrutiny this is a step in the right direction. But remember Shawn is being brought in as an advisor not a CEO.
Similar to Reggie and Gamestop. So it could end quickly if Shawn gets wind of some nefarious stuff.
Yeah the CCP has had a few issues with Tencent the past couple of years, I'm interested if there's a growing rift between them behind the scenes. Maybe Tencent wants to become a legitimate conglomerate not bound by the CCP's controlling hand; they have a lot of work to do in order to make that happen.
Of course I'm still weary of strengthening ties between Tencent & Sony for a few reasons, some maybe based on bad information and others just because of what that can entail for further acquisitions, but I understand the logic behind a potential scenario where they enter a strategic partnership or alliance. If it becomes a game of money to compete with entities like Microsoft and...well, honestly Microsoft are the only ones of the massive megacorps who've purchased huge publishers over the past few years and are the only one who've publicly mentioned they are looking to buy even more publishers in the future. It's hard to throw Apple, Google, Amazon etc. into this when they haven't made such purchases and haven't mentioned any plans to do so.
So basically, if this is about Sony having a means of better matching Microsoft WRT potential acquisition targets, or solidifying investments in the Asian game development scene, then a strategic partnership with a company like Tencent probably makes a lot of sense. It might also explain in part why we've seen the two invest shares into several of the same targets (Epic, Kadokawa, From Software etc.).
I can see @David Jaffe rioting later tonight in his next stream
Nah, it's smarter for them to continue covering all platforms, specially mobile. But having Shawn will help them have a better relationship with Sony and current or former Sony (and friend studios) executives plus will give them maybe some extra insight from US console market.
Tencent is a private company unrelated to the Chinese government who doesn't censor and in fact doesn't ask to change anything to the foreign studios they acquire or invest on, something that US companies do.
Chinese instead what they do when investing on something foreigner is to invest in something that already works well and knows that market. They support them with money and extra resources they may need to help them work even better, and they collect dividends on a win/win situation. They don't have the mentality of the western countries and particularly USA of conquering and forcing their views and strategy on the conquered ("acquired" in the corporate area) ones.
I have friends in several acquired or invested game studios from Tencent and all of them say that. Some of them even were close friends of the (European) Tencent Europe execs before Tencent invested/bought them, so they for sure know their real plans. Plus there are several known people who also publicly claimed that.
Tencent will bet on multiplatform and won't change their acquired studios to change anything from their games. They will only give them money and help from their other game studios to grow and enter and become stronger in markets like China and mobile if want to do so and if they weren't already there.
I hope this is actually true WRT Tencent because there have been a couple of reports or rumors that paint a different picture of them. Of course, it's basically a game of hearsay so there's not much telling who's being honest and who's lying. I just remember folks like Alanah Pearce seemingly bringing up certain types of censorship with them, but again no telling if that rumor is even true.
If Tencent are fully unrelated to the CCP, then if there's any clarification on things regarding that relationship I've heard of like the Tencent board members with active ties to CCP seats, or some of the social monitoring apps they've either helped develop for or fund for the CCP, then that'd be appreciated. I'm definitely open to the idea that a lot of the messaging around the company from Western info sources has probably had a politically motivated slant to it, but I also can't 100% buy the idea Tencent are just a totally innocuous company, either.
Often, the truth lies somewhere in the middle but if that truth doesn't make them any fundamentally different from a Microsoft, Apple, Google etc. then to a large degree I'd understand the sentiment that special fearmongering towards Tencent is likely undeserved.