Sony announcing and releasing games within 12 months

Announcing and releasing games the same year

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Yobo

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Sony has been more frequently (with some exceptions) announcing and releasing games the same year. Or within a 12 month window.

Some recent examples

Astro Bot
TLOU Remakes
Helldivers 2
Concord
GOW Valhalla (DLC within a week)

Then some games like Spiderman 2 and Ragnarok were announced earlier but didn't get their proper reveals until the same year as release. Wolverine and Death Stranding 2 will probably be more like this too

Do you like this? Not like this?

Should Sony do this for all games or should they do 5 years of marketing like Xbox?

Are we in the ugly middle where Sony is quiet because they are transitioning to shorter announcement to release timings?
 

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The cycle will largely catch up to itself and there will be more hype for individual titles as they near as opposed to overlapping hype and fatigue.

Personally I preferred hearing about a game years in advance, but I can see the negatives involved as well.
 
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Not a single one of this games is a big release. They announced a PS6 game already in Physint, Wolverine was announced a long time ago and so was DS2.
Nobody suggested every game is like this. It's a question if it's better to do this or not
 
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Well it depends, new ip's should be revealed earlier whereas older ip's can make do with a shorter reveal to release window. But copying xbox and showing games that don't release for 5+ years is asinine.
 

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I think it's positive for devs because puts on them less pressure regarding release dates and possible delays, and also reduces the amount of work they have to put on making vertical slices/gameplay demos that will be shown in trailers or events.

Meaning, they focus their resources on doing the game itself and not that much on marketing stuff.

It also reduces the pressure regarding changes: games constantly change during development and some things get axed or toned down to improve performance or because did work in some place but caused issues in other place.

And since devs aren't fortune tellers can't predict how a game that will be released 4 years will look later some games look differently than in early trailers and many players who don't understand it get dissapointed.

By showing a game for the first time a months before release, it means that what they show is pretty much the final game, which is pretty much complete and in bugfixing and tweaking stages.

So retarded fanboys and haters won't complain about downgrades, changes or removed stuff, or because of delays. Only will complain about made up issues like "they haz no gamez" instead.

I think it's also positive because also reduces marketing costs and uses less marketing & PR slots per game, keeping more room to market smaller games that really will welcome -and need- some extra attention.
 
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It clearly works a lot better for Nintendo than the N64/GCN era of announcing early and then having to catch people up on cancelations, rescopes and delays.
 

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I don't look back at E3 2015 or E3 2016 or any of the good events we used to get as a bad thing in any way.

I feel a lot more comfortable to be invested in the ecosystem knowing in advance the games that are coming, because without anything to look forward to I'm always stuck in a mode where I'm reevaluating if I should even have a PS5.

Movie, series, etc, all get announced way in advance and no harm comes of it.

I think the real reason why Sony does this stuff is to be able to cancel games more easily. Announcing in advance protects studios against being closed. Look at the studios MS closed recently all with unannounced games and so was London studio, Japan Studio, etc. This is not about taking pressure away from the devs (that is done by not giving a date) it is about taking pressure away from themselves (top management) in those publishers.
 
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Considering fake Fable footage and perfect dark being vaporware… I appreciate the less amounts of bullshit. I’m sure warriors would prefer games announced 5 years in advance for list wars battles.
 

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I think it's positive for devs because puts on them less pressure regarding release dates and possible delays, and also reduces the amount of work they have to put on making vertical slices/gameplay demos that will be shown in trailers or events.

Meaning, they focus their resources on doing the game itself and not that much on marketing stuff.

It also reduces the pressure regarding changes: games constantly change during development and some things get axed or toned down to improve performance or because did work in some place but caused issues in other place.

Yeah I didnt think of this point before. Its good for them
So retarded fanboys and haters won't complain about downgrades, changes or removed stuff, or because of delays. Only will complain about made up issues like "they haz no gamez" instead.
Its not so much we are retarded, its just we are use to what we are use to. And expectations after PS4 were pretty high. Someone like me was expecting a ND game in the first 4-5 years, a fromSoft exclusive, and all the studios to be releasing games by now.

I think it's also positive because also reduces marketing costs and uses less marketing & PR slots per game, keeping more room to market smaller games that really will welcome -and need- some extra attention.

I guess so, but at the same time, I dont see why it would cost so much more to show it a year ago and then again now. They dont have to advertise in between so much. I think the last stretch of the advertising is much more important than between when its first show and 1-3 years later.
PS still shows games from years out, Death Stranding 2, Wolverine, Physint etc. I dont care if Kojima’s next game is years away, knowing its happening with Playstation is what excites Playstation fans
 

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Considering fake Fable footage and perfect dark being vaporware… I appreciate the less amounts of bullshit. I’m sure warriors would prefer games announced 5 years in advance for list wars battles.
Its not just list wars, its knowing some awesome games are coming. I liked E3 announcements and game news well before online forum wars with xbox was even a thing.
 
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Yeah I didnt think of this point before. Its good for them
Bonus info regarding this topic: in the TLOU2 Grounded documentary ND talks about it, and is shown how they had to crunch to make the gameplay portion of a trailer -when the game was still in early stages- while also working on the final push of a milestone delivery (I think it was a TLOU2 gameplay trailer while also working on the final push of Uncharted Lost Legacy).

He explained there that also moved to this approach of showing the game closer to release to reduce that issue.

Its not so much we are retarded, its just we are use to what we are use to. And expectations after PS4 were pretty high. Someone like me was expecting a ND game in the first 4-5 years, a fromSoft exclusive, and all the studios to be releasing games by now.

I guess so, but at the same time, I dont see why it would cost so much more to show it a year ago and then again now. They dont have to advertise in between so much. I think the last stretch of the advertising is much more important than between when its first show and 1-3 years later.

PS still shows games from years out, Death Stranding 2, Wolverine, Physint etc. I dont care if Kojima’s next game is years away, knowing its happening with Playstation is what excites Playstation fans
ND was supposed to show last year TLOU Online, and maybe to ship it this or next one. But got cancelled.

They have minimum 2 new SP games, one started apparently early 2021 and the other one apparently early 2023. Considering AAA games take 5-9 years to be done nowadays (each generation they take longer) and that now Sony prefers to show them closer to release, it's still too early to show these SP games.

Unless they have something made mostly by someone else like an Uncharted VR game made by someone like Firesprite (not likely) or Iron Galaxy refurbishing the Nathan Drake Collection for PS5 and PC (likely).

Yes, generally Sony announces their games close to release but as always there are exceptions, in this case Kojima and Marvel games. And well, sometimes there are cases like GoWR, announced to be released around a year and a half later but get delayed so the distance between the release date and the announcement ends being longer.

I also assume that for them in addition to take more resources and money with a long marketing campaign, is also harder to keep the hype during years. Maybe they found that regarding the marketing budget vs sales ration it's even more effective to concentrate the budget on a shorter period of time: maybe with the same money they can put more ads of each trailer in more places.
 
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I don't even care if it's only 1 year from release,
How God of war 2018 and Ragnarok did it is great as well. E3 2016 - April 2018 and September 2020 to November 2022.

Thats a lot better than Dreams being revealed the same day as the PS4 and coming out the same year the PS5 releases (Don't worry Dreams your still an amazing game.)

I think Sony's E3 2015 doesn't hold up too well nowadays considering it took Shenmue 3 over 4 years to finally release and FF7 Remake still has one last part to release.

I just really hope 2024 can pull another 2020 where the showcase reveals has game to release the same year like Miles Morales, Demon's Souls Remake, and Sackboy's big Adventure.

It's the 30 year anniversary of PlayStation this December and we need more than a Astrobot game to celebrate,
Let Bluepoint remake Castlevania SOTN,
Get remasters of the Infamous PS3 games
Remasters of the PSP GTA Games on PS5 as timed exclusives
Have a new Parappa game ready for this holiday
and please get some more PSVR 2 support
 

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I don't even care if it's only 1 year from release,
How God of war 2018 and Ragnarok did it is great as well. E3 2016 - April 2018 and September 2020 to November 2022.

Thats a lot better than Dreams being revealed the same day as the PS4 and coming out the same year the PS5 releases (Don't worry Dreams your still an amazing game.)

I think Sony's E3 2015 doesn't hold up too well nowadays considering it took Shenmue 3 over 4 years to finally release and FF7 Remake still has one last part to release.

I just really hope 2024 can pull another 2020 where the showcase reveals has game to release the same year like Miles Morales, Demon's Souls Remake, and Sackboy's big Adventure.

It's the 30 year anniversary of PlayStation this December and we need more than a Astrobot game to celebrate,
Let Bluepoint remake Castlevania SOTN,
Get remasters of the Infamous PS3 games
Remasters of the PSP GTA Games on PS5 as timed exclusives
Have a new Parappa game ready for this holiday
and please get some more PSVR 2 support
Dreams is just an example of how Sony trows away valuable stuff, it should've been an open beta game all along with a much better plan to make money out of it. They tried to fit it into the traditional business model of Sony and killed the game because of that.

FFVII Remake and FFVII Rebirth are two of the best games released on PlayStation over the last 10 years, E3 2015 was awesome. The PS4 gained a lot of momentum out of that, when people call your even "the E3 of dreams", you must've done something right, specially when compared to how they are doing these day, where pretty much every event they put together are a huge disappointment.
 

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Dreams is just an example of how Sony trows away valuable stuff, it should've been an open beta game all along with a much better plan to make money out of it. They tried to fit it into the traditional business model of Sony and killed the game because of that.
I know your not gonna like the sound of this but Dreams should of got a PS5 port and PC release in 2022 instead of Sackboy's Big Adventure getting a PC release. It's just the type of game modders would of loved