Sony buy Kadokawa and make them exclusive - Why it needs to happen!

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Yes but just make Kadokawa an offer they can't refuse.

From Software are the one dev except Kojima productions that they have a long history working with but are still external
 
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Yes but just make Kadokawa an offer they can't refuse.

From Software are the one dev except Kojima productions that they have a long history working with but are still external
Clap Hanz, Quantic Dream, Square-Enix, I'm sure I can come up with more if I actually tried rather than just going off the top of my head.
 
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Kadokawa also means they get access to tons of Anime, Sony already owns Animelab,Crunchyroll and Funimation. All they would need after that is Square to get even more anime
 

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Sony bought quite a few new developers...... regrettably Nixxes.

PC is becoming less and less relevant as time goes on, the architecture is showing it is unfit for modern day gaming and stuck in the past.

No Xbox and no PC, as PC gamers already get Zenimax and Obsidian WRPGS and have lost nothing due to the acquisitions war started by Microsoft....

Making From an exclusive PS developer is balance, it is justice.
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Two Acquisitions i think Sony should make:

1.FromSoftware
2.CD Projekt

That would be great and a perfect answer to Bethesda.

I also wouldn't mind seeing any of these purchases/Part ownership:

-Larian Studios/Wizards of the Coast: Divinity, Baldurs Gate, Dungeons and Dragons. Magic the gathering. Tons of WRPG potential

-Square Enix: JRPG’s. Final Fantasy, Triangle Strategy, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, Octopath and more

-Level 5: JRPG and popular Japanese IP’s like: Dark Cloud, Professor Layton, YoKai watch, Ni No Kuni

-Sega: Sonic is more popular than it has been in Decades. Yakuza. Persona, Catherine, SMT. Virtua Fighter, Streets of Rage &classics like JSR, Sega Rally etc

-Konami: MGS. CastleVania. Silent Hill. Suikoden

-Capcom and Namco for obvious reasons. Ninendo invested shares in Namco, I dont see why Sony cant do the same with the above to protect its future


And tbh, I dont care if Sony buy them.

I just want Sony to have enough shares so they can always be on Playstation Consoles in the future and not be bought by MS, Tencent, Embracer. That is more important to me then PS owning them outright.
I dont want another Bethesda and Activision situation where we lose IP’s to Microsoft because they have infinite money
 
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They only have $140M of the budget left to spend on acquisitions, investments and stock repurchases during this fiscal year. Sony said they'll continue acquiring in the mid to long term, but not in short term.


What happened to the billions they had to spend? It was like 10billiion+ at first no? And that was after Bungie?



Why is the number getting less and less but without any big purchases?
 
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What happened to the billions they had to spend? It was like 10billiion+ at first no? And that was after Bungie?



Why is the number getting less and less but without any big purchases?
This budget wasn't only acquisitions of the game division. It was for acquisitions, investments and stock repurchases for the whole Sony during the FY2021, FY2022 and FY2023 (the one that started a month ago).
  • The budget for the 3 years was originally 2 Trillion yen or more (back then in dollars that was $18B, but due to changes in value of dollar and yen since then, now it's $14.81B)
  • But when showing the results of FY2022, decreased the budget from 2T+yen to 1.8TB yen (now $13.33B)
  • They spent 731.1B Yen (now $5.42B) during FY2021
  • They spent 1.052T yen ($7.79B) during FY2022
  • 1.8T - 1.0527T - 728.1B = 19.9B yen ($147.3M) remaining to spend in FY2023
  • So there's only $147M remaining of this budget to spend during the rest of the current fiscal year.
Why did this number decrease? These are the reasons:
  • They spent most of it in acquisitions like Bungie, Bluepoint, Haven, Crunchyroll, EVO or Firewalk to name only a few of them. But also investments like FromSoft, Epic, Devolver, Scopely, etc. Recently the saudis bought Scopely, meaning Sony must have won a lot of money with that investment.
  • The dollar vs yen echange rate. When they announced this budget, 2T yen were $18B+ dollars. Now 2T yen are $14.8B. So Sony decided to pause acquisitions after Firewalk avoiding to make more during the short term and leave them for the mid to long term (meaning, maybe in FY2024, FY2025, FY2026 etc) hoping that the market goes back to being more favorable. Maybe they not only mean exchange rates, but also regulators being less aggressive with big gaming acquisitions.
  • During the current FY they'll still be paying a good amount of additional side costs of their previous FY2021 and FY2022 acquisitions.
  • They reduced that budget from 2T to 1.8T. These 0.2T (now $1,48B) went to be spent by image sensors (non gaming division) and for server costs of corporate R&D and the gaming division. This FY they expect to sell a lot of consoles, meaning more users, so they'll need more servers for PSN, PS Cloud gaming, and probably means that this fiscal year they'll release big 1st/2nd party MP games, or that maybe their planned PS cloud gaming expansion to mobile devices will be implemented this year.
Seems people didn't notice it and my walls of texts are difficult to read. Maybe a new thread will be needed showing drawings and sources.
 
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Kadokawa also means they get access to tons of Anime, Sony already owns Animelab,Crunchyroll and Funimation. All they would need after that is Square to get even more anime
Take it easy with all the anime stuff, it would be much better if they only acquired FromSoftware and no Kadokawa.
 

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This budget wasn't only acquisitions of the game division. It was for acquisitions, investments and stock repurchases for the whole Sony during the FY2021, FY2022 and FY2023 (the one that started a month ago).
  • The budget for the 3 years was originally 2 Trillion yen or more (back then in dollars that was $18B, but due to changes in value of dollar and yen since then, now it's $14.81B)
  • But when showing the results of FY2022, decreased the budget from 2T+yen to 1.8TB yen (now $13.33B)
  • They spent 731.1B Yen (now $5.42B) during FY2021
  • They spent 1.052T yen ($7.79B) during FY2022
  • 1.8T-731.1B-1.052T =16.9B yen ($125M) remaining to spend in FY2023
  • So there's only $125M remaining, less than a few weeks ago which was $140M back then, of this budget to spend during the rest of the current fiscal year.
Here I posted the sources where Sony explains all this. Why did this number decrease? These are the reasons:
  • They spent most of it in acquisitions like Bungie, Bluepoint, Haven, Crunchyroll, EVO or Firewalk to name only a few of them. But also investments like FromSoft, Epic, Devolver, Scopely, etc. Recently the saudis bought Scopely, meaning Sony must have won a lot of money with that investment.
  • The dollar vs yen echange rate. When they announced this budget, 2T yen were $18B+ dollars. Now 2T yen are $14.8B. So Sony decided to pause acquisitions after Firewalk avoiding to make more during the short term and leave them for the mid to long term (meaning, maybe in FY2024, FY2025, FY2026 etc) hoping that the market goes back to being more favorable. Maybe they not only mean exchange rates, but also regulators being less aggressive with big gaming acquisitions.
  • During the current FY they'll still be paying a good amount of additional side costs of their previous FY2021 and FY2022 acquisitions.
  • They reduced that budget from 2T to 1.8T. These 0.2T (now $1,48B) went to be spent by image sensors (non gaming division) and for server costs of corporate R&D and the gaming division. This FY they expect to sell a lot of consoles, meaning more users, so they'll need more servers for PSN, PS Cloud gaming, and probably means that this fiscal year they'll release big 1st/2nd party MP games, or that maybe their planned PS cloud gaming expansion to mobile devices will be implemented this year.
Seems people didn't notice it and my walls of texts are difficult to read. Maybe a new thread will be needed.

Thanks for the info.
Man so theres no way they can afford a square enix or others this year?
 

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That would be great and a perfect answer to Bethesda.

I also wouldn't mind seeing any of these purchases/Part ownership:

-Larian Studios/Wizards of the Coast: Divinity, Baldurs Gate, Dungeons and Dragons. Magic the gathering. Tons of WRPG potential

-Square Enix: JRPG’s. Final Fantasy, Triangle Strategy, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, Octopath and more

-Level 5: JRPG and popular Japanese IP’s like: Dark Cloud, Professor Layton, YoKai watch, Ni No Kuni

-Sega: Sonic is more popular than it has been in Decades. Yakuza. Persona, Catherine, SMT. Virtua Fighter, Streets of Rage &classics like JSR, Sega Rally etc

-Konami: MGS. CastleVania. Silent Hill. Suikoden

-Capcom and Namco for obvious reasons. Ninendo invested shares in Namco, I dont see why Sony cant do the same with the above to protect its future


And tbh, I dont care if Sony buy them.

I just want Sony to have enough shares so they can always be on Playstation Consoles in the future and not be bought by MS, Tencent, Embracer. That is more important to me then PS owning them outright.
I dont want another Bethesda and Activision situation where we lose IP’s to Microsoft because they have infinite money
Well, if you’d been paying attention you’d have seen that MS is NOT getting Activision.
 

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Well, if you’d been paying attention you’d have seen that MS is NOT getting Activision.

I have been paying attention lol. They still bought Bethesda. And they haven’t paid Activision 3billion yet. Its still a situation I dont want to go through again where maybe the publsher will be bought. Activision is huge, as is EA/Rockstar.

But a smaller Publisher and studio might not have any issues getting bought. Apart from Ubisoft, I care about who gets bought and the rest are pretty small compared to Activision and similar to Bethesda sales wise.

And MS will probably try buying someone else in a few years. Whether its a publisher or a few studios. I dont want more lost to MS. So it would be good if Sony does something about it to secure more IPs
 
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Lol $140 Million left. Don’t believe his nonsense. I asked William R. Aguilar about it, that’s wrong information he spreads. Nothing but an empty assumption of his.
 

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I have been paying attention lol. They still bought Bethesda. And they haven’t paid Activision 3billion yet. Its still a situation I dont want to go through again where maybe the publsher will be bought. Activision is huge, as is EA/Rockstar.

But a smaller Publisher and studio might not have any issues getting bought. Apart from Ubisoft, I care about who gets bought and the rest are pretty small compared to Activision and similar to Bethesda sales wise.

And MS will probably try buying someone else in a few years. Whether its a publisher or a few studios. I dont want more lost to MS. So it would be good if Sony does something about it to secure more IPs
Any further acquisition attempts by MS are likely to meet the same fate as the Activision deal, as the CMA has laid it all out in black and white that Microsoft, by their own admission, wants to create a monopoly in streaming video games.
 

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Any further acquisition attempts by MS are likely to meet the same fate as the Activision deal, as the CMA has laid it all out in black and white that Microsoft, by their own admission, wants to create a monopoly in streaming video games.
Any big acquisition is also going to take a long time to have any real effect and Xbox is dying so fast that by then it wouldn't matter.

Let's not even mention the fact that if they are actually betting on cloud streaming they are in for a rude awakening that the market for it just doesn't exist.

Once MS goes third-party none of their acquisitions makes any difference to Sony. Even on PC MS already publishes their games on another store that takes a 30% cut.
 

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Any big acquisition is also going to take a long time to have any real effect and Xbox is dying so fast that by then it wouldn't matter.

Let's not even mention the fact that if they are actually betting on cloud streaming they are in for a rude awakening that the market for it just doesn't exist.

Once MS goes third-party none of their acquisitions makes any difference to Sony. Even on PC MS already publishes their games on another store that takes a 30% cut.
I don’t think MS bailing out of being a console provider is an “If” anymore.
 

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I don’t think MS bailing out of being a console provider is an “If” anymore.
If they actually have plans for an next gen Xbox to compete with PS6 or even a Xbox Series X revision to compete with the PS5 Pro they are delirious.

At this point any another company entering the console market would have a better shot at success than MS because the Xbox brand is pure poison.

It's over. Kill the Xbox brand and move on with just MS Game Studios, Bethesda and Gamepass as any other third-party publisher. They already have their job cut out for them with turning all these random studios they already bought into profitable operations.
 
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Thanks for the info.
Man so theres no way they can afford a square enix or others this year?
I'd say it isn't impossible but almost, super unlikely.

They have money to do them, but Sony said that for the short term they don't want to make acquisitions and reduced their related budget for them (when they could have increased it instead if they had plans to make big acquisitions soon) because market conditions now aren't favorable.

Mentioned that they'll continue with acquisitions in the mid to long term (meaning, future fiscal years). Maybe they will wait to see if the dollar vs yen value improves on their side or are afraid that regulators could be harsher with a big gaming acquisition from Sony than they are being with the ABK acquisition, or may want to see what regulators end doing with the ABK acquisition before doing a big move.

Who knows, they could announce an acquisition later, pretty likely by the end of the current FY and count it for the next fiscal year, where they'd complete it.

Or who knows, maybe the ABK acquisition fails and MS tries to buy something else like SE and Sony makes a not planned move to counter it, but doesn't seem likely at all. Sony would have kept money in the budget for a potential case like that. I think that if they left around $140M in the budget for this FY it's because they don't plan to make big acquisitions this FY.

Lol $140 Million left. Don’t believe his nonsense. I asked William R. Aguilar about it, that’s wrong information he spreads. Nothing but an empty assumption of his.
It's official data from Sony, I posted the details and sources in this thread.