It will be the same way the Series S has been a pain for many devs, as much as some of the games becoming (timed) console exclusives for PS5 because of it and Xbox first party devs struggling release after release to create something decent.
Sony in the early stages of developing a portable console that plays PS5 games
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It will be the same way the Series S has been a pain for many devs, as much as some of the games becoming (timed) console exclusives for PS5 because of it and Xbox first party devs struggling release after release to create something decent.
It won't be that because there's no obligation to support the weaker spec. The idea is that if a dev wants to make a PS5 game it'll support the handheld as well as home console, but if they want to make a PS6 title there's no need to make a PS5 or PS5P build.
That's different from a dev wanting to make an Xbox Series X and PS5 game and being forced to make it for XSS as well
It won’t need to be PS5 spec with PSSR and a small screen.
Even Series S specs would be enough.
That's what I said in my first comment: I hope the portable version won't be a mandatory requirement.
Yup. With games like Final Fantasy mainline & Dragon Quest going to Nintendo Switch 2 you might even see a leak of those japanese PS gamers just fully migrating to Nintendo if Nitnnedo Switch 2 has all japanese software + there already stellar franchise & output. I could see Nintendo grabbing FF & DQ & making new spin off games that are permanently exclusive like what they did w Sega & Bayonetta.
Also reviving more fun, casual, quirky franchise like Patopon, Parrapatherapper, Wild Arms, Gravity Rush, Ape Escape & the trio Jak & Daxter, Sly Cooper & Ratchet & Clank which Ratchet is still existing but R&C games use to releases yearly or every other year. PS should learn from Nintendo & make these for-sure easy smaller AA hits like Ratchet & Clank, Sly Cooper, Jak & Daxter annualized sure they may not sell 10 million but I can see them easily selling 3-5 million & if you have them annualized rotating that’s easy free profit w low risk & low investment. R&C rift apart sold 5+ million on PS5 during a pandemic w a budget of 70 million dollars its by far the fastest & best selling premium ratchet & clank game making over 300 million in revenue/profit. PS singleplayer games aren’t even monetize w cosmetics which fans wouldn’t mind that would easily drive more profits give me a Jak & Daxter skin for Ratchet & Clank rift apart he’ll bring some of Jak & Daxter weapon as additional dlc on the side.
Not every game has to be AAA also not every game has to be $70 PS should be more aggressive w pricing testing more $40-$50 to drive family & younger consumers to buy games/try a new game out. Also adding cooperative online would drive in more sells of kids can play w there friends. Imagine playing R&C rift apart w 3 other friends that would be fun asf also drive PS+ on console. Maybe it a bad thing but more games should be like the souls game where they can be played solo but also have online cooperative play making a singleplayer game sorta hybrid & up the needs of PS+ to enjoy these singleplayer hybrid type of games
Just make the PS6 a hybrid handheld. Oh you want to play on your tv just get the dock & boom problem solve. If you want to play on the go just play it how it is just like Nintendo switch.
PS making a PS6 traditional box console & on the side a weaker handheld will just divide PS studios from making games that are compatible & 3rd party. PS like Nintendo should be aiming that both 1st & 3rd party only have 1 hardware to develop not 2 which like Xbox series will have issues & not capitalize rather hardware.
For some reason, people go nuts when someone proposes to follow Nintendo's strategy to reduce development costs, but everybody is ok with PlayStation going the way of Xbox.
I have the switch and it's PS3-level at best. It's not a direct competitor to The Switch nor the next one which will as well be 2 gens behind. I personally wouldn't care about it.
If that’s the case what’s the point of a PS handheld that doesn’t gets supported w the current/next gen exclusive games? Just get a Steamdeck or Nintendo Switch 2.
PS6 should be 1 device a handheld hybrid. You want to play on your tv just dock the PS6 & boom done. If you want to play on the go just buy the PS6 no need to buy the dock & boom. PS splitting its market instead of copying Nintendo that has shown success. Handheld didn’t succeed by itself it was Nintendo combing both its console market & handheld into 1 making there 1st party & 3rd party focus on one device. You make games for 1 device no need to wonder if you support the PS6 & skip the handheld nah that’s not the way to go & like Xbox series will cause both problems & not allow PS to fully capitalize like Nintendo has w Switch. Switch was successful because it folded all Nintendo previous device into 1 device.
PS6 should be a hybrid handheld that plays PS6 first party exclusive & is supported by 3rd party with the device playing PS5, PS4, PS3, PS vita & other PS console in 1 device.
The only problem Sony/PS has is them porting games to PC & it being played on Steamdeck & there games being emulated. If PS is going to fold there library onto 1 device they need to stomp out these emulators that allow fee access to PS library because that’s what makes Nintendo Switch so desirable
For me, this is actually quite positive news! It shows that Sony holds the Console ecosystem close to its heart. So far, all of Sony's PC ports have flopped, except for Helldivers. If Spider-Man 2 flops as well, who knows? They might even take the radical step of eventually discontinuing PC ports, a return to their roots. A handheld could contribute more to growth than all of Sony's PC ports put together.
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Wouldn't that still take some tweaking (i.e downgrading) from the developers? PSSR bumps up resolution but it wouldn't save the weakass Series S because of its lower base specs
It all comes down to the similarities of the architecture and where corners are cut.
For example if you have the same CPU, same amount of memory, same I/O, just a weaker GPU, you could probably easily run the same games at simply a lower resolution. MLID suggested there were flags for lower resolution on the PS5 SDK.
So if the PS handheld can scale games down by itself simply running in a lower resolution mode without developer intervention, then it is already a win.
That's how boost mode works on PS5 Pro even on games that don't have updates. You can set your output to 1080p on PS5 and it doesn't improve performance, so I think a lot of people assume that the PS5 doesn't have any descaling features, but we just don't really know.
Not sure it would be difficult for a Sony handheld to deliver 1080p60, especially upscaled with PSSR. You basically need something that runs Monster Hunter Wilds and GTA6 with no issues.
Well we see currently the ported PS4 and PS5 games running on the Steamdeck
Only this time around on more powerful hardware, PSSR (3.0?) and optimisation from first party. This for sure will be a digital only handheld and an incentive to buy and push digital on the PS (console) eco-system. Feed a different market + cheaper entry point on top of pushing back other competitors in this space.
MLID did confirm that Sony signed AMD for 2 SKU's likely the handheld is with the PS6 family.
Only this time around on more powerful hardware, PSSR (3.0?) and optimisation from first party. This for sure will be a digital only handheld and an incentive to buy and push digital on the PS (console) eco-system. Feed a different market + cheaper entry point on top of pushing back other competitors in this space.
MLID did confirm that Sony signed AMD for 2 SKU's likely the handheld is with the PS6 family.
Known for his notoriously wrong takes, BillyZ has all but assured that Nintendo's next handheld will be their last.
With PSSR you can use lower resolutions without a significant loss of image quality using AI upscaling.
Thus needing and using less GPU/CPU power.
It’s barely noticeable on big screen. It definitely won’t be noticeable on a small handheld screen.
A Series S powered handheld with PSSR is more than enough power.
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I would fully support it, but under Herman & totoki the moves they’ve been doing the past 4 years give me no hope.
But I agree that a handheld if PS completely cut out PC ports & consolidated & bought capcom & square & had fromsoft + a strong group of mobile developers would give PS more growth then the PC port would ever give Sony/PS. Just wish they would follow & copy Nintendo methods of growth instead of Xbox seeing how destructive they have been moving the past 10 years w Xbox
Yeah, who wouldn't want AAA games with no voice work, 30 fps and cell shaded graphics. And nothing but that. I don't think you people really know what they're wishing for when they say they want Sony to go the Nintendo route.For some reason, people go nuts when someone proposes to follow Nintendo's strategy to reduce development costs, but everybody is ok with PlayStation going the way of Xbox.
