Spain Videogames Market 2023: PS5>NSW+XBS combined; console:PC software 100:1!

[Cool hand luke]

Another market that solidifies trends we've seen all around the world.

Traditional gaming on PC is dead, with PC software selling 1/100th of the amount of units as for consoles (a decrease from 1/90th). PC remains in use and has grown (not as much as consoles), but one has to surmise it's mainly for F2P or browser based crap.









Meanwhile, consoles remain most popular among the younger Gen Z and Gen Alpha cohort. PC is boomerville, commanding a lead over consoles in the 45-64 age bracket.

El sector del videojuego crece un 16% en 2023 con una facturación récord de más de 2.339 millones de euros - Asociación Española de Videojuegos

El anuario de la Asociación Española de Videojuegos (AEVI) recoge que en 2023 se superaron los 20 millones de videojugadores en nuestro país El papel de las mujeres sigue creciendo y ya suponen el 49% de los usuarios La industria impulsa el proyecto “The Good Gamer”, junto con el Ministerio de...

www.aevi.org.es

Report:

https://www.aevi.org.es/web/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/AEVI_Anuario-2023-2.pdf

PS5: 550k
NSW: 410k
XSX: 100k

 

[SuperPotato]

Hmm, i thought console is boomerville and PC/Steam is where all the Gen Z hipsters are.

 

[anonpuffs]

Hmm, i thought console is boomerville and PC/Steam is where all the Gen Z hipsters are.

gen z is the 15-24 demo, you can see that they are mostly on PC and mobile

 

[Cool hand luke]

gen z is the 15-24 demo, you can see that they are mostly on PC and mobile

Gen Z are 11-26, the older ones (15+) are indeed morphing into boomers and gaming on PC, but the younger ones 11-14 and Gen Alpha, the new gen, are console-heavy.

 

[Neversummer]

Traditional PC like traditional console that are box hardware that only allow you to play games while at home are & will become less & less reliable & popular. Everyone is going mobile Steam understands that if they don’t make a hardware that allows you to take Steam & it’s Steam storefront outside the stuck PC box hardware & instead anywhere to access Steam outside your home they will become a thing in the pass. While other platforms & storefront are accessible while physically outside of your home like Apples storefront or Nintendo storefront it’s only time till PS make there next console the PS6 a hybrid handheld & the PS storefront can be access outside your home.

Mobile gaming is so big & accessible for 2 reason. Mobile games can be played anywhere they can be access anywhere outside your home, it’s a pocket size mobile piece of hardware. Mobile gaming is 99.9% F2P games the barrier to play a mobile game is the lowest in any storefront.

There will be a big push by apple & your already seeing it where mobile phones can now play console games the power gap will get less & less like Nintendo next console & PS & Xbox console in time Nintendo console will play all 3rd party at the same fidelity.

You will see Apple push 3rd party gaming publisher to publish there console & pc games to iPhone bolstering the iOS App Store storefront. As I keep saying PS competitors aren’t just Xbox & Nintendo it’s any tech hardware or storefront that can display or distribute games such Steam, Apple & you can even say Netflix & tech competitors like Samsung. Who’s to say Samsung says hey we’ve open our Samsung gaming storefront or allowed gaming storefront like Steam to be open on Samsung TV/tablet now you can play games without buying a console & instead directly through your TV/tablet.

If I was Sony I would fold Sony TV & Sony Mobile division into the PS division consolidate the effort which you have 2 other division which 1 piece of hardware that being the PS can do cut the extra fat & save cost. PS hardware needs to be more open become more then just a gaming/entertainment piece of hardware & offer apps like IOS that you can open on PS bank apps, Uber/food, health/work apps etc all in 1 piece of hardware. The way you take out your phone to open the bank app or order food or take a taxi/uber or make emails/maps is how accessible & multi purpose the PS hardware should become. Instead of me being a consumer who buys an iPhone or upgrades iPhone every 3-5 years instead you buy a PS to do the same thing for a much lower price. PS console are $500 while phones are near $1000 PS can even shrink down the screen size to be smaller that can fit into your pocket saving cost & reducing price. I believe making PS more multi purpose outside gaming & entertainment can increase sells to maybe 200+ million per generation every 7-10 years

When talking about hardware platforms, storefront or subscription it all comes to the exclusive content you can access anywhere else. Apple will become less reliant on the yearly model of releasing hardware due to each new iPhone hardware become less & less marketable on power & lean more to its storefront, features & ecosystem benefits & the content you can access or content with extra benefits if played on IOS which you already see them do with Apple Arcade & making Apple Arcade user have benefits like cosmetics or feature if played on IOS through Apple Arcade

 

[Neversummer]

gen z is the 15-24 demo, you can see that they are mostly on PC and mobile

Why are genz going to PC? Easy mainly due to streamers idk why Sony/PS doesn’t partner with some of these streamer to promote the PS5 maybe make PS5 plates using there brand this seems like a no brainer to keep your hardware look like the cool thing by these streamers & gen z that are influence by them.

Why isn’t there a Travis Scott x PS5 collab that brings Travis Scott Cactus Jack brand plates for PS5 they did it with Lebron (which those plates where ugly asf & Sony barely put any effort. Playboi Carti x PS5 plates, Bad Bunny PS5 plates there’s streamers like Kai Cenat & a bunch of others who are annoying but they are still the ones that influence these genz.

Maybe partner with Mobile game publisher like Hoyoverse or Supercell & make Genshin Impact PS5 plates or like Nintendo did by buying a port studio not to port Nintendo games to direct competitor platform/storefront but port studio to bring more 3rd party games to Nintendo platform/storefront port mobile games using nixxes to PS platform bring Supercell mobile game Brawl Stars (which has been downloaded over 500 million times on mobile) to PS & create Brawl Stars x PS5 plates to bring the mobile crowd to PS

 

[Cool hand luke]

Why are genz going to PC? Easy mainly due to streamers idk why Sony/PS doesn’t partner with some of these streamer to promote the PS5 maybe make PS5 plates using there brand this seems like a no brainer to keep your hardware look like the cool thing by these streamers & gen z that are influence by them.

Why isn’t there a Travis Scott x PS5 collab that brings Travis Scott Cactus Jack brand plates for PS5 they did it with Lebron (which those plates where ugly asf & Sony barely put any effort. Playboi Carti x PS5 plates, Bad Bunny PS5 plates there’s streamers like Kai Cenat & a bunch of others who are annoying but they are still the ones that influence these genz.

Maybe partner with Mobile game publisher like Hoyoverse or Supercell & make Genshin Impact PS5 plates or like Nintendo did by buying a port studio not to port Nintendo games to direct competitor platform/storefront but port studio to bring more 3rd party games to Nintendo platform/storefront port mobile games using nixxes to PS platform bring Supercell mobile game Brawl Stars (which has been downloaded over 500 million times on mobile) to PS & create Brawl Stars x PS5 plates to bring the mobile crowd to PS

Geriatric Z are going to PC. They seem to be an anomaly. Note that most other demos including the ones behind and ahead of them are more console heavy.

But the other thing this thread is about is Spanish sales.

PS5 5.5:1 Xbox last year. And this likely was the only market Xbox improved their performance in year on year!

 

[Zzero]

I can't help but notice they don't have an asterisk explaining that Nintendo properties exclude e-shop sales. Mayhaps they are excluding all digital stores and if so then yeah, there's going to be almost nothing in the PC segment. Either way, something about PC vs console game sales just is not adding up here.

 

[Cool hand luke]

I can't help but notice they don't have an asterisk explaining that Nintendo properties exclude e-shop sales. Mayhaps they are excluding all digital stores and if so then yeah, there's going to be almost nothing in the PC segment. Either way, something about PC vs console game sales just is not adding up here.

They are including digital sales. They split out physical and digital with stats for each in the article.

PC being weak should not surprise anyone. It's simply two orders of magnitude less relevant than consoles despite Steamlicker propaganda.

 

[Zzero]

They are including digital sales. They split out physical and digital with stats for each in the article.

PC being weak should not surprise anyone. It's simply two orders of magnitude less relevant than consoles despite Steamlicker propaganda.

Nintendo doesn't give out access to digital sales data (neither does T2, fwiw,) so for them at least they didn't do that, but I'll take your word on it for the other ones.

 

[Lynsen]

Interesting that. for the past 2 weeks in Spain, the Nintendo Switch has outsold the PS5. Seems like PS5 sales reached their peak there already and they're reaching the new baseline

 

[Cool hand luke]

Interesting that. for the past 2 weeks in Spain, the Nintendo Switch has outsold the PS5. Seems like PS5 sales reached their peak there already and they're reaching the new baseline

Interesting that that's not what the thread is about. These are 2023 sales - for the full year, Switch was eclipsed by a much more expensive console.

 

[Lynsen]

Interesting that that's not what the thread is about. These are 2023 sales - for the full year, Switch was eclipsed by a much more expensive console.

It's a thread discussing platform sales in a certain region. My point is that home console sales are stagnating in this market faster than a handheld, similarily to Japan.

And to your second point, well... obviously? If PS5 couldn't outsell a soon-to-be 8-year-old console during its prime year then we'd be laughing at it just like we're laughing at Xbox

 

[Gods&Monsters]

It's a thread discussing platform sales in a certain region. My point is that home console sales are stagnating in this market faster than a handheld, similarily to Japan.

And to your second point, well... obviously? If PS5 couldn't outsell a soon-to-be 8-year-old console during its prime year then we'd be laughing at it just like we're laughing at Xbox

This is stagnating for you? They are basically equal and that's just 1 week. PS5 will be on sale next week.

Hardware:

NSW: 3.800 /
PS5: >3.700 /
XBS: 300 /
PS4: ~300 /

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[Lynsen]

This is stagnating for you? They are basically equal and that's just 1 week. PS5 will be on sale next week.

Hardware:

NSW: 3.800 /
PS5: >3.700 /
XBS: 300 /
PS4: ~300 /

Ventas: Sea of Stars triunfó en su lanzamiento físico en España, pero EA Sports FC 24 ha recuperado la posesión

El JPRG de Sabotage se coronó con creces en la S19, pero en la S20 el dominio vuelve a ser de los éxitos habituales.

www.gamereactor.es

Of course it is. PS5 practically has no competition in the home console space as XBOX is dead and buried.

Nintendo Switch is an 8-year-old console, and Nintendo already acknowledged its intention to announce the successor this FY. The PS5 is getting all of the relevant third-party support this year, it should be outselling the Switch with ease in every market

 

[Cool hand luke]

Of course it is. PS5 practically has no competition in the home console space as XBOX is dead and buried.

Nintendo Switch is an 8-year-old console, and Nintendo already acknowledged its intention to announce the successor this FY. The PS5 is getting all of the relevant third-party support this year, it should be outselling the Switch with ease in every market

And in terms of revenue, it is! You can rest easy now. Except for Japan which has a different consumer profile.

Btw you almost had it. This is a thread discussing platform sales in a certain region in a certain year. Maybe Installbaseforum.com will tolerate your switchery. They seem to be as thoroughly disconnected from reality.

 

[SuperPotato]

And in terms of revenue, it is! You can rest easy now. Except for Japan which has a different consumer profile.

Btw you almost had it. This is a thread discussing platform sales in a certain region in a certain year. Maybe Installbaseforum.com will tolerate your switchery. They seem to be as thoroughly disconnected from reality.

Installbaseforum is basically just a Nintendo circlejerk disguised as a sales forum, lol. Weekly Famitsu sales are by far their most populated threads every single week.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

Of course it is. PS5 practically has no competition in the home console space as XBOX is dead and buried.

Nintendo Switch is an 8-year-old console, and Nintendo already acknowledged its intention to announce the successor this FY. The PS5 is getting all of the relevant third-party support this year, it should be outselling the Switch with ease in every market

I just saw this and I remembered your ass. Stagnating in Spain when it's selling more than double Switch sales

PS5: 5.900 /
NSW: 2.500 /
PS4: 600 /
XBS: 300 /

Ventas: PS5 dobla en hardware a Nintendo Switch en la semana del State of Play

Incluso con jugosas ofertas de las editoras, la tendencia esta S22 ha sido el ahorro y pocas visitas a tienda.

www.gamereactor.es

 

[anonpuffs]

I just saw this and I remembered your ass. Stagnating in Spain when it's selling more than double Switch sales

PS5: 5.900 /
NSW: 2.500 /
PS4: 600 /
XBS: 300 /

Ventas: PS5 dobla en hardware a Nintendo Switch en la semana del State of Play

Incluso con jugosas ofertas de las editoras, la tendencia esta S22 ha sido el ahorro y pocas visitas a tienda.

www.gamereactor.es

20:1 is so nice

 

[Cool hand luke]

Of course it is. PS5 practically has no competition in the home console space as XBOX is dead and buried.

Nintendo Switch is an 8-year-old console, and Nintendo already acknowledged its intention to announce the successor this FY. The PS5 is getting all of the relevant third-party support this year, it should be outselling the Switch with ease in every market

Damn this aged poorly