The hate towards remasters/remakes
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Games like MGS 1-3 and such getting remakes or remasters is never the issue, because those games are old enough to where modern tech can add a lot of QOL improvements. Same with re-releases like the recent Tomba or upcoming Gex, or the recent Tomb Raider PS1 collection; in the case of the former two a remaster or remake also helps those games reach a wider audience they didn't get a chance to during their heyday, even if they deserved it.
But when games like Horizon Zero Dawn, which is not only still perfectly fine & playable in its original form, but also fully BC on the current PS5 AND already sold 20 million copies in its own right, get a remaster or remake the immediate next gen...yes it's going to feel like a bit of a cash grab and people will rightfully call it out. The same also can kind of be said for the Until Dawn remake. Both it and HZD remaster are primarily to cash in with upcoming film releases, but at least Until Dawn has other justifications (IMO) such as getting a chance to reach a wider audience (the original wasn't some 20-million unit seller or close to that IIRC).
I can respect the graphical work done for HZD remaster but it's still just a prettier picture of the same game from 2017. A game that already sold extremely well and is still perfectly playable by today's standards on modern hardware via BC. The one thing that makes its remaster more justifiable is that there's an upgrade path for current HZD owners.
Mind, SIE aren't the only one with a problem regarding remasters/remakes of games that don't really need them. They're just a more recent example, doubly so if the Days Gone remaster news ends up being true.
Not true at all. It's not the first time PlayStation releases remasters, not even the first time the ports/remasters came "shortly" after the original release.
But there is a difference when you release the Uncharted 1-3 collection a month after announcing Uncharted 4 would release a few months later. (4 years between U3 and the Nathan Drake Collection, 8 between U1 and the collection)
There is a difference when you release Gravity Rush remastered the same year U4, The Last Guardian and R&C release.
While the HZD remaster is releasing in a relatively bleak year, even though H2 and Astro Bot are egregious games.
And the discourse around HZD completely changed once it was announced as a 10$ upgrade, because people thought it would be a totally unnecessary REMAKE due to rumors before the announcement.
I see not difference at all imo.
I mean I not even agree that Sony didn't release games this year... they release 4 AAA games (and the year didn't end yet) that is what they usually release each year... 4-5 games per year... and I'm only counting first-party studios... if you add 3rd-party exclusives the number increases.
The year is being amazing for PS users in terms of Sony's games.
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Sony also released
Rise of the Ronin
Stellar Blade
Destiny 2 Final Shape
TLOUP1 Remake
TLOU2 Remastered
and will by the end of the year also release
Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered
Lego Horizon Adventures
Until Dawn
All of this before getting into their PC publication...
People ran with this narrative that Sony didn't have any games because Totoki said there wouldn't be any major franchise releases, and they've transfigured that into meaning that there aren't any games at all this year.
That's 12 games for console in one calendar year. You can remove Concord since it was delisted and you still have 11. Remove all remakes and remasters, which you'd have to do consistently with any year you're comparing it to, and you still have 7 games. You can remove MLB the show because it is an annual title, and you still have 6 games... which is going to be more games than most years and two of those games might be GOTY contenders.
This year stands up to any other Sony year pretty well.
The only "weak" year is the year where they released Spider-Man 2... lol
Rise of the Ronin
Stellar Blade
Destiny 2 Final Shape
TLOUP1 Remake
TLOU2 Remastered
and will by the end of the year also release
Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered
Lego Horizon Adventures
Until Dawn
All of this before getting into their PC publication...
People ran with this narrative that Sony didn't have any games because Totoki said there wouldn't be any major franchise releases, and they've transfigured that into meaning that there aren't any games at all this year.
That's 12 games for console in one calendar year. You can remove Concord since it was delisted and you still have 11. Remove all remakes and remasters, which you'd have to do consistently with any year you're comparing it to, and you still have 7 games. You can remove MLB the show because it is an annual title, and you still have 6 games... which is going to be more games than most years and two of those games might be GOTY contenders.
This year stands up to any other Sony year pretty well.
The only "weak" year is the year where they released Spider-Man 2... lol
Third party
DLC
Not this year, it's already 2 years old
3 remasters (all of PS4 titles) vs. 3 new 1st party titles (4 counting MLB).
The remastered version of Uncharted: Drake's Fortune in the 2015 PS4 Nathan Drake Collection was "just a prettier picture of the same game" from 2007. Same for God of War 3 Remastered, which released a mere 5 years after the original game. If there had been backwards compatibility between the PS4 and PS3, would you have been as critical of those as the optional HZD remaster?
Just curious. Because when it comes to the HZD 'remaster', it feels like there's some double standards on display. 7-ish years for a remaster seems par-for-the-course with Sony's high profile releases. I've even seen people whining about Horizon while simultaneously asking for a re-remaster of the Uncharted trilogy, without understanding that's the exact same thing they bitched about Sony doing with TLOU1...
It’s usually based in greed. A beloved (cult?) game like Lolipop Chainsaw makes a lot of sense because there’s a clear need to refine the gameplay.
Taking an absolute classic like RE4 and remaking it is just the publisher handing itself another first place trophy. The gameplay of the original is just fine even by today’s standards.
Taking an absolute classic like RE4 and remaking it is just the publisher handing itself another first place trophy. The gameplay of the original is just fine even by today’s standards.
Sony makes the most complete remakes/remasters compared to most. Only one getting close or better is Capcom with their RE.
The only good one in the recent years was Demon's Souls everything else is a joke.
Sony makes the most complete remakes/remasters compared to most. Only one getting close or better is Capcom with their RE.
