Source has been right on some information such as that EA would no longer make the legacy game Fifa for Switch and on previous Direct dates.
Gamescom 2023 Thread
Updated Switch 2 hardware rumor thread.
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Source has been right on some information such as that EA would no longer make the legacy game Fifa for Switch and on previous Direct dates.
Gamescom 2023 Thread
Ray tracing will be terrible or on only the most basic level / games.
They didn't have to sell me on it anyway, I will buy as soon as possible when it launches.
They didn't have to sell me on it anyway, I will buy as soon as possible when it launches.
What's important is that they will have the tensor cores. Ray tracing on a handheld is asnine.
12gb is not crazy, tho I think it would be 8 or 16 more commonly. Ray tracing is a laugh except as a vestigial feature of the chipset.
I think the Switch 2 is going to use Nvidia's Orin NX chipset, probably the 16GB one:
The power window between 10W and 25W would suit a hybrid console nicely, especially if they put active cooling in the dock.
This would put GPU performance in the ballpark of a laptop 1650, paired with a dog of a CPU. Probably good enough to play a trimmed down Cyberpunk at 30 in handheld mode.
I think the Switch 2 is going to use Nvidia's Orin NX chipset, probably the 16GB one:
The power window between 10W and 25W would suit a hybrid console nicely, especially if they put active cooling in the dock.
This would put GPU performance in the ballpark of a laptop 1650, paired with a dog of a CPU. Probably good enough to play a trimmed down Cyberpunk at 30 in handheld mode.
This makes no sense as any hardware that can run DLSS 3.1 can run 3.5. I believe all of these people are lying until we see the hardware in 2024.
12gb is not crazy, tho I think it would be 8 or 16 more commonly. Ray tracing is a laugh except as a vestigial feature of the chipset.
I think the Switch 2 is going to use Nvidia's Orin NX chipset, probably the 16GB one:
The power window between 10W and 25W would suit a hybrid console nicely, especially if they put active cooling in the dock.
This would put GPU performance in the ballpark of a laptop 1650, paired with a dog of a CPU. Probably good enough to play a trimmed down Cyberpunk at 30 in handheld mode.
I've mentioned this quite a while back in this forum, actually. They need to pair it back, but the T239 is pretty much a modified T234.
That kind of hardware shouldn't be running ray tracing anyway. It's way too heavy
Get ready for disappointment when the real specs are revealed.
Its all guesswork and we all know Nintendo cuts corners when it comes to console power of late.
Its all guesswork and we all know Nintendo cuts corners when it comes to console power of late.
This sounds plausible, but we know the hardware has to be the most cost-effective possible for Nintendo, not the most powerful.
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I kind of agree with what several people in the other thread said. We had Steam Deck, absolutely physically huge, insanely expensive, what two years ago? Year and a half?
The DF consensus on that is that it’s just about able to play PC PS4 games at similar settings, at 720p.
Wouldn’t it make sense for Nintendo’s mass market and size targets to deliver something similar in 2024 at $300 and a slim form factor?
The x-factor is DLSS and I suppose tensor cores, if all that makes the jump, as well as the fact that console development locks in and optimizes on a single hardware set-up, usually pulling more from the hardware. Think of late PS4 doing miracles with stuff like Death Stranding.
Even so, I still feel like Switch 2 will be to PS5 and Series X, what Switch 1 was to PS4 and Xbox One. Give or take some things, and hopefully better port quality in general.
The DF consensus on that is that it’s just about able to play PC PS4 games at similar settings, at 720p.
Wouldn’t it make sense for Nintendo’s mass market and size targets to deliver something similar in 2024 at $300 and a slim form factor?
The x-factor is DLSS and I suppose tensor cores, if all that makes the jump, as well as the fact that console development locks in and optimizes on a single hardware set-up, usually pulling more from the hardware. Think of late PS4 doing miracles with stuff like Death Stranding.
Even so, I still feel like Switch 2 will be to PS5 and Series X, what Switch 1 was to PS4 and Xbox One. Give or take some things, and hopefully better port quality in general.
This seems like a good time to ask how ray tracing on Nvidia cards works. Do the tensor cores take a lot of the work out for the system, to make this even hypothetically viable for a handheld?
The thing is DLSS 3 best use case in these handhelds would be to get to higher framerates in CPU bound games while also using comparatively lower GPU resources, at any target FPS. That would bring power consumption down and extend battery life, which in a handheld is key.
At least thats what I see when using DLSS3 on PC. Ray tracing also can be more demanding on the CPU and memory intensive so it's a tough ask for a handheld.
I believe the tensor cores are built specifically with math functions to construct and traverse bounding volume hierarchies and calculate intersections(used to do raytracing math), but it's not free as the cpu/gpu still has to schedule and transmit the work that the tensor cores do, and then wait for the results. But raytracing doesn't even look super good at low res, if this handheld is reconstructing from say 540p to 1080p... just not worth the performance hit.
A Switch 2 will never sell anywhere near as well as the Switch. Especially if all the do is up the specs. It'll be just like the WiiU again.
"But Timmy, you and Sammy already have a Nintendo Switch each. What's different about this one?"
What they should do is scrap the portability and come up with a brand new traditional console.
"But Timmy, you and Sammy already have a Nintendo Switch each. What's different about this one?"
What they should do is scrap the portability and come up with a brand new traditional console.
Mobile gaming is the only market where Nintendo is undefeated. Going back to static consoles would make very little sense for them. PS and Xbox have that market dominated already, and Nintendo ain’t spending that much R&D money and expensive parts to try to compete.
Then they probably need some other new gimmick. I just don't see a Switch 2 with higher specs being all that appealing.
OMG I can play my cartoon Mario games in 4k!!
Then they probably need some other new gimmick. I just don't see a Switch 2 with higher specs being all that appealing.
OMG I can play my cartoon Mario games in 4k!!
Yet, every generation people flock to their cartoony games. They still sell a shit ton of games.
Also, we don’t know what they’ll come out with for the next system.