Completely Irrelevant.
What do you think First Person and Third Person means?
To put it simply.
First = You
Third = Someone else
Sony are Third Party from Valves perspective and Vice Versa.
Valve Steam: "We worked with Sony to improve support for PlayStation controllers"
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Completely Irrelevant.
What do you think First Person and Third Person means?
To put it simply.
First = You
Third = Someone else
Sony are Third Party from Valves perspective and Vice Versa.
How is Sony not third party to Valve if they are now releasing their games on Steam?
Cool, but irrelevant or not Valve releases nothing on Playstation. I thought you meant they see them as a 3rd party like other 3rd party studios and publishers. They dont have an equal relationship
They where compatible but not all features worked on Steam.
I don't know what changed now but maybe they are doing better use of Dual Sense.
BTW from what I remember triggers didn't work well and vibration was non-existent.
That not talking about the exclusive Dual Sense features like Haptic Feedback, the touch pad, etc that never worked on Steam.
From Valves perspective Sony are Third Party.
Always will be unless Valve acquire Sony.
Why are you waffling about games and equal relationships?
I give up.
Because its a thread about Valve and Sony and I cant be bothered to make a thread about it lol
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Agreed, I've grown up with PlayStation controllers. I hate seeing xbox button prompts.
There's still too many games that only have xbox support which i hate, often i havw to rely on mods.
I think this is due to the firmware updates, for a long while you could only updatw the controller with a ps5.
Yes, Sony are a 3P to Valve and I merely listed the reasons. One of those is a....pretty BIG reason, i.e SIE bringing virtually all of their games from this decade to Valve's Steam storefront.
The reality of the market is one where SIE simply can't say the same of Valve being a 3P to PlayStation, because they aren't. None of Valve's peripherals or systems are compatible with PlayStation. None of Valve's modern releases from this decade or really anything beyond the Orange Box for PS3 have been ported to SIE consoles.
But from Valve's POV, SIE are a 3P, and they'd be correct. They're a 3P who just happen to have a platform of their own (PlayStation).
I'm only bringing this up to say, the same can't be reciprocated from SIE WRT Valve. They can't claim Valve are a 3P who just happen to have their own platform (Steam). Especially considering, SIE are much more dependent on Valve's platform for future growth than the other way around :/
There are NO reasons.
What do you think First Person and Third Person means?
To put it simply.
First = You
Third = Someone else
Sony are Third Party from Valves perspective and Vice Versa.
Technically you can say all 3 Xbox, PS & Nintendo are all 3rd party since they all release games on other platforms. But Xbox & PS are more alike then Nintendo who releases live service games on mobile or double downs on there own platform Nintendo.
Really the only one that isn’t 3rd party which is crazy to say because they used to be 3rd party is Valve/Steam. Not even Steam would port or allow PS to find a port studio to release it natively on PSVR2 & Half Lyfe Alex is a throwaway VR game in Valve/Steam eyes. It’s even more laughable if you saw CSGO, Dota or even Valve/Steam new hero shooter multiplat it will likely only be on Steam. But aye because you know Valve/Steam games are exclusive to its platform you know you have to bend the knee & get a PC or Steamdeck to play those games. Longterm Valve/Steam audience is growing what PS is looking for except Valve/Steam widens it’s audience by not porting there games & making sure Steam has more & more games now from platform holders making Steam library bigger then Xbox & PS which entails in Steam becoming the best place to play games due to it having wider libraries. Wider libraries & more exclusive then Xbox or PS means Steam platform audience reaches new players as either new people joins the Steam platform or bends the knees of Xbox & PS gamers as Steam has the same games & either plays it better on PC or can find more games on its storefront then other competitors resulting in you the gamer spending more time invested in Steam storefront.
Kinda like how Phill said gamers already has there libraries build up well Steam is building a library w Xbox, PS, Steam & PC games some of those being default PC exclusive games.
In the case of accesories like gamepads, manufacturers of Steam hardware/accesories not owned by the platform holder (Valve for Steam) is a 3rd party manufacturer.Damn even Valve called Sony a 3P
In case of PS, the PS controllers made by companies not owned by the platform holder (Sony for PS) are 3rd party accesories/gamepads.
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Haven't read the whole article, nor the majority of the thread back and forth regarding 3rd party, so I'm sorry if it was already pointed out.
Is this the sentence which sparked the discussion?
If yes, have you considered that they actually mean non-PlayStation-made-PlayStation controllers (aka 3rd party controllers), like the NACON ones, were ment here?
Is this the sentence which sparked the discussion?
If yes, have you considered that they actually mean non-PlayStation-made-PlayStation controllers (aka 3rd party controllers), like the NACON ones, were ment here?