It's time for Microsoft to pull the plug on Xbox.

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Even if Starfield is as good as it needs to be, I'm going to experience it as a Steam game. The Xbox aspect will be an annoying extra login ruining the Steam Deck experience, and worrying about the safety of my cloud save.

I like that Xbox and PS are both porting to Steam now, but for Xbox it just means I never need to own one.

Welcome to 2012?

Fairly certain MS was throwing broken versions their games into Windows 8's store, before launching XB GP and later PC GP.

It still makes no sense for Sony to undercut their console, following MS into the PC space.
 

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Anyway, not to be pedantic about it. He's the guy they put on stage as the face of playstation for several years after Kaz.
No he wasn't. You are ignoring Andrew House.

Shawn Layden was more of a combination of Jack Tretton + Shuhei Yoshida. He also only had the role of being in charge of SIE Worldwide Studios for a few years.
 

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Anyway, not to be pedantic about it. He's the guy they put on stage as the face of playstation for several years after Kaz.
I think it was Kaz, Jack Tretton, Andrew House, Shawn Layden, Then Jim Ryan as the public faces.
 
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No he wasn't. You are ignoring Andrew House.

Shawn Layden was more of a combination of Jack Tretton + Shuhei Yoshida. He also only had the role of being in charge of SIE Worldwide Studios for a few years.
I'm not ignoring, but I think if you go back to major press conferences, for several years it was Layden coming out first.
 

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I'm not ignoring, but I think if you go back to major press conferences, for several years it was Layden coming out first.
Because E3 and PlayStation Experience happen to be in America. Jim Ryan use to show up on stage at Gamescom as well.

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Some executives are more reserved when it comes to that stuff. It's like that John Kodera guy never existed.
 

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Because E3 and PlayStation Experience happen to be in America. Jim Ryan use to show up on stage at Gamescom as well.

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Some executives are more reserved when it comes to that stuff. It's like that John Kodera guy never existed.
I don't hear much cult of personality shit around Ryan either tho. Gaming podcasts always talk about Spencer like he's our buddy.
 
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I don't hear much cult of personality shit around Ryan either tho. Gaming podcasts always talk about Spencer like he's our buddy.
Jim Ryan is a lot like Andrew House but people hated him from day one. People also disliked Shawn Layden before he was fired btw. There was never anything close to what we see with Phil Spencer with either PlayStation or Nintendo executives (not even with Reggie or Iwata).

As for Jim Ryan, only with the recent developments most people started to recognize that he has in fact done pretty damn well at his position. His first impression was pretty bad with the whole Sony hiding that some games were crossgen but that's probably his only big blunder. People also disliked him from his honest comments about PS1 games like Gran Turismo looking dated as hell.

The whole meme about Lying Jim makes no sense coming from people that worship Phil Spencer the biggest liar this industry has ever seen.
 
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It's kind of wild how much the gaming press contributed to a myth of Phil Spencer as a guy who "gets it". Meanwhile Shawn Layden, who nobody cares about presided over maybe the greatest period of Playstation history.
Shu is the goat and real gamer out of the crowd. He is the man! With tons of hours logged in not only on PS consoles but Nintendo as well.
 
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Phil Spencer is going on kinda funny games xbox podcast for an interview.
"We hear you and we need to do better"
"This is on me"
"My team is awesome and we're looking into it."
"It's Sony's fault."
"Choice is the most important thing for gamers"
"Console wars are bad"
"Sony is the market leader though"
"We have the best fans"
"My door is always open"
"We need to do better with our first party"
 
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"We hear you and we need to do better"
"This is on me"
"My team is awesome and we're looking into it."
"It's Sony's fault."
"Choice is the most important thing for gamers"
"Console wars are bad"
"Sony is the market leader though"
"We have the best fans"
"My door is always open"
"We need to do better with our first party"
We want our games to reach as many households/gamers as possible [so please buy into our mediocre game pass].
 
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