Alex Donaldson from RPGSite/VG247 says developers at Gamescom are absolutely slamming XSS off the record

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But Tom Warner told us it's faster than PS5 because of the 100 Mhz CPU advantage.
That was a mistake from him too I believe...

From Series S page.
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That is 100Mhz lower than PS5 clocks (3.5Ghz with SMT).

PS. Maybe his matake was due beliving the CPU clock of Series S and Series X should be the same but they are not... Series X CPU runs at 200Mhz faster clocks than Series S CPU by MS official specs.
 
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It's not surprising that some devs are crying about the Series S... there's games running at sub 1080p on PS5 and Series X targeting 60fps :LOL:

Maybe they need to start optimizing their shit better.
A 4.3 TF GPU will bottleneck anything if you try to keep similar graphics settings and just lower the resolution.

I think the problem with it is how MS foces feature parity, and the way "smart delivery" works forces devs to make a separate package for each target instead of having some file(s) where they each store setting(s) for each known configs and run from the same asset base.

MS again created some bloated garbage solution.
 

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That was a mistake from him, too I believe...

From Series S page.

CPU. 8X Cores @ 3.6 GHz (3.4 GHz w/SMT) Custom Zen 2 CPU


That is 100Mhz lower than PS5 clocks.
I don’t think it was a mistake at all. He was just hyping and lying for the cult leader. Or, he’s dumb as fuck. Or both.
 

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You either got to embrace the S or abandon Xbox entirely. There's no way MS can pull the parity clause.
 

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Yeap since rumors about Series S started the devs complained about it.
But Xbots tried to shutdown them very fast.
Do MS even listen to devs? GDK seems like a big mess imo.

 
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Yeap since rumors about Series S started the devs complained about it.
But Xbots tried to shutdown them very fast.
Do MS even listen to devs? GDK seems like a big mess imo.



I think it's clear who listened to devs and who listened to the marketing department.
 
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I think it's clear who listened to devs and who listened to the marketing department.
What about this guy who says AAA development is "unsustainable"? Aren't a lot of developers even more concerned about that?

Nintendo has proven that you can move massive units without cutting edge graphics. Compared to the Switch, Series S strikes a way better compromise on gaming performance, and it comes in a great form factor compared with the giant PS5 and Series X chassis.
 

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What about this guy who says AAA development is "unsustainable"? Aren't a lot of developers even more concerned about that?

Nintendo has proven that you can move massive units without cutting edge graphics. Compared to the Switch, Series S strikes a way better compromise on gaming performance, and it comes in a great form factor compared with the giant PS5 and Series X chassis.
I don’t get your point. Cerny goes on tour to get feedback from devs to design the next console to make their lives easier. MS simply didn’t care and did the opposite. Now they need to spend more time and money trying to get their games to fit on 8 GB of RAM. Isn’t that making AAA development more expensive?

Now some devs who make state-of-the-art AAA games are struggling. Nintendo has nothing to do with this, as those games are not coming to Switch.

Also, Shawn layden wanted PS to follow the GP model. That is more of a business argument than a console design one.
 
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What about this guy who says AAA development is "unsustainable"? Aren't a lot of developers even more concerned about that?

Nintendo has proven that you can move massive units without cutting edge graphics. Compared to the Switch, Series S strikes a way better compromise on gaming performance, and it comes in a great form factor compared with the giant PS5 and Series X chassis.

Sure. Why it lacks a BUNCH of 3rd party AAA/AA games?:/ 'm sure it is enough powerful for it for BG3 or CP2077. NSW is successful because Nintendo exclusives, no more, no less.
 
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Sure. Why it lacks a BUNCH of 3rd party AAA/AA games. NSW is successful because Nintendo exclusives, no more, no less.
And Xbox Game Studios now includes all of Bethesda, Activision, and Blizzard. That should be enough to draw an audience.
 

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But Tom Warner told us it's faster than PS5 because of the 100 Mhz CPU advantage.
Yeah I remember Riky on gaf saying the Series S would start "pulling away" from PS5 in terms of performance lol.

Edit: Had to fix my friggin autocorrect stuff that made this post look very silly. Ricky on gas?
 
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