Another PC flop: Until Dawn underperforms on Steam with 2.5k CCU at launch. Hermen flees the country

Is Sony going to recoup the total cost of the project with the PC sales?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 11.4%
  • No

    Votes: 23 52.3%
  • Gabe and Phil are smiling as Sony kills itself

    Votes: 16 36.4%

  • Total voters
    44

Bryank75

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The game is already dropping down to number 24 on Steam with a rating of 56% 😬

I don't think they will beat the peak because people were getting it early to review-bomb it and refund asap.

It's too early for estimates but it won't be pretty. 25k maybe? I will update the OP with the PC sales later.

Yeah we really need to keep track of the sales and how each game is doing in key metrics.

We should probably have a thread that has all of the PC releases and breaks them down into success / acceptable performance / failure categories, explaining why....

What do you guys think?
 

Boswollox

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I know you're not saying all this when Baldur's Gate 3 is the most "political messaging" and "degenerate browbeating" game there is and it sold extremely well, despite being what you would refer to as "woke"
Bg3 isn't woke.
 

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I updated my previous posts to update the CCU record with the one it got last night, now is (added the SIE sames not published in PC by Sony too):
  1. Helldivers II 458,709
  2. Destiny 2 316,750
  3. GoT 77,154
  4. GoW 73,529
  5. Spider-Man 66,436
  6. HZD 56,557
  7. HFW 40,462
  8. TLOU 36,496
  9. GoWR 35,615
  10. Days Gone 27,450
  11. Spider-Man Morales 13,539
  12. Uncharted 10,851
  13. Ratchet 8,757
  14. Detroit: Become Human 8,222
  15. Helldivers 1 6,744
  16. Returnal 6,691
  17. Death Stranding 6,093
  18. Journey 3,313
  19. Until Dawn 2,607
  20. Guns up! 2,277
  21. Predator Hunting Ground 1,504
  22. Beyond: Two Souls 1,246
  23. Concord 697
  24. Heavy Rain 747
  25. Sackboy 610
  26. Flower 193
  27. Everybody's Gone to the Rapture 191
  28. Unfinished Swan 121
  29. Hohokum 24 (this is vert sad, this game is awesome)
 
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I understand a PC release date, but it would have been better if they just released a port and a remastered for $30.

What people really want are: Resistance, Killzone, Bloodborne, Infamous remakes.
Seems to be a PC-exclusive problem. Until Dawn is at least number 5 in the PSN store for the best-selling games. It's currently ahead of Warhammer, for a price of €70, even though the PS4 version, which most people probably have, also runs on PS5. I also think the remake is superfluous for the price, but I'm a PS5 player and get every Sony game day 1 anyway. Some PC gamers who always claimed Sony could make a lot of extra money if they released day 1 on PC have looked pretty stupid in the last few weeks.

Incidentally, I don't think that remakes of Infamous, Resistance or even Killzone sell significantly better on PC or that people want them. The Crysis Remaster Collection didn't play a big role in sales, so how can series like Resistance or Killzone, which weren't that successful on PlayStation and weren't continued for that reason, achieve? When the last Resistance came out, many of those who are the target group today weren't even born yet, and the last Killzone is almost 11 years old. 11 years ago there was no Fortnite, Apex Legends or Warzone. At least now I don't really need an Infamous remake or a remaster collection. The problem is and remains that dozens of games are released every month. The Until Dawn remake can now compete with the Silent Hill 2 remake, there is also various new content for F2P games, a new extensive Atlus JRPG and the new Dragon Age is already in the starting blocks. Oh yes, then there is the HZD remaster, which nobody wanted, but is currently in 5th place for pre-orders.

In my opinion, console and PC players are simply different. PC players are used to getting a lot of things for free as a patch, Playstation players are happy to pay for games they liked to play them in the best possible quality. Nintendo players also buy ports, remasters or remakes at full price if they have to. I also believe that if Until Dawn had only been released for PS5, it would only have been released as a remaster. Since a PC port is a certain amount of work anyway and Until Dawn 2 will probably run on UE5, it was commissioned as a remake. That's probably why there will also be a Bloodborne remake instead of a simple remaster. The remake could then also be created together with From, but that's another story.

As I've been saying for weeks, the Lego Horizon game will probably decide whether and how Sony changes its PC strategy. If it gets little attention there, but sells well on Switch and Playstation, it's pretty pointless to sell major titles there on day 1 or to port titles at all. Spider-Man 2 will definitely be ported next year at the latest, but I have no idea what the plans will be. Sony is the only one with the annual sales and can better track whether PC or PS players switch systems with the PSN account requirement. If this tracking can now also be deactivated on the PC thanks to mods, in the end the only thing left is probably a separate launcher/store on the PC, and that means even fewer PC players will buy the ports and day 1 games, so Sony might as well just give up. I would voluntarily pay €10 more for every Sony title if they completely bury their PC "strategy". I have no problem with ports for other consoles, as they buy games (except for Xbox).
 
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I understand a PC release date, but it would have been better if they just released a port and a remastered for $30.

What people really want are: Resistance, Killzone, Bloodborne, Infamous remakes.
Unlike Resistance, Killzone, Bloodborne, Infamous, there will be soon an Until Dawn movie:


I assume that they brought the game back and ported it to PC partly because of it. They sell some copies now at full price, and several months -or a year- later, when price cutted to $30 or close, they release the movie.
 
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Complete and utter flop, SH2 remake is top 10 on both PSN and Steam with their early access deluxe edition release. This flop didnt even make it to top 25 on PSN and has already dropped 20 places on steam since yesterday.

These idiots dont realize that the gaming market is very different from 2020-2014, games that sold 1-2 million copies then can easily do 5 million today. So they can take a risk to remake a new Socom or resistance or any of the jrpgs/rpgs languishing on the PS2 and 3. I still cant believe they havent done anything with shadow of the colossus except remake it.

Astrobot and Concord in same week, and now until dawn and SH2 in same week. The message cant be made much more clear than this by the market.
 
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Exicide

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Bg3 isn't woke.
It literally has the possibility to be an intersex, non binary, trans character that has gay/bi/pan/asexual relationships, has canon gay and lesbian characters, has "girlbosses" and has several women in lead positions in military

Its everything the anti-woke cry and shit their pants about.
 

Boswollox

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It literally has the possibility to be an intersex, non binary, trans character that has gay/bi/pan/asexual relationships, has canon gay and lesbian characters, has "girlbosses" and has several women in lead positions in military

Its everything the anti-woke cry and shit their pants about.
Except, I can murder every single one of them without batting an eye lid.
The game has options, like a real RPG, including the option to be an LGBT genocider.

No woke game allows you to even be mean to gay characters, let alone shaft em with the point end of a sword.
 

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Except, I can murder every single one of them without batting an eye lid.
The game has options, like a real RPG, including the option to be an LGBT genocider.

No woke game allows you to even be mean to gay characters, let alone shaft em with the point end of a sword.
i think this is some pretty fucking insane thoughts dude, you may need help if that's what matters.
 

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i think this is some pretty fucking insane thoughts dude, you may need help if that's what matters.
If baldurs gate 3 is a sweet baby/dei game shadowheart would be butt ugly with manly face

Theyre giving you freedom to create woke character and options doesnt mean they cater to you unlike that dragon age veilguard with limited slider and weird scar surgery in medieval games
 
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If baldurs gate 3 is a sweet baby/dei game shadowheart would be butt ugly with manly face

Theyre giving you freedom to create woke character and options doesnt mean they cater to you unlike that dragon age veilguard with limited slider and weird scar surgery in medieval games
lol this sort of goalpost movement is crazy.
 

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Come again when you have something original to say you woke ree member have a nice day
I'm not derailing this thread because you won't admit the fickleness of what you declare as woke. Don't worry, I've already identified it.

"If it's successful, it isn't woke, never was, never will be. But if it's a flop, it's woke, and they went broke!"
 

Boswollox

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i think this is some pretty fucking insane thoughts dude, you may need help if that's what matters.
It's a larian game. You can kill everyone in larian games, just like you can in obsidian games. Have you never done a murder run-through of outer worlds? It's a legitimate alternative run that's part of the story.

Sorry that you can't differentiate video games from real life, but the sane of us who can, know that killing pixels means nothing.

Point being, you can't kill woke in woke games.
 
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It's just an offensive misuse of resources to me.
Every release from Sony as a publisher used to be an event, now they are nothing more than an indie publisher struggling to get any attention on 3rd-party stores. They depend on Valves curation to make ends meet. There's just no hype like before and they won't understand why until it's too late.

More platforms ≠ more sales

At 745 in-game after few days, this is a definite flop.
Dropped to number 63 already, out of top 100 by the end of the week or earlier 😬
 

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Every release from Sony as a publisher used to be an event, now they are nothing more than an indie publisher struggling to get any attention on 3rd-party stores. They depend on Valves curation to make ends meet. There's just no hype like before and they won't understand why until it's too late.

More platforms ≠ more sales


Dropped to number 63 already, out of top 100 by the end of the week or earlier 😬

The veil of Maya falls once exposed to the most competitive games marketplace on the planet.

Games are seen for what they truly are without any kind of football club like attachment.