Arrowhead Community Boss Says Helldivers 2 On Xbox Requires Sony & Phil Spencer To ‘Duke It Out’

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Jesus y'all the first page of this thread is pure salt over a community manager telling people that Arrowhead wants to bring the game to Xbox but that it is up to Sony. Not sure why you're so angry that they're telling the truth? Why does it make you guys so angry that Arrowhead is talking like this? Do you think they're supposed to have undying loyalty to Sony and kiss their feet or something? I swear, sometimes I read posts and wonder how one can be so insanely parasocially attached to a brand that they care that a GAAS wants to go crossplat, as it should.
 
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Thing is, unlike other hardcore fans. Xbox fans already have the ps5 and PC. They can already play the game.
 

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You misspelled Xbox there.

No, he's right. SIE are basically trending the same way Microsoft are, they just don't have (or want) a Phil Spencer type to openly message it. If SIE were really going a different route, they could have more people high up speak out against that narrative, or better yet, show they're going a different route through their actions.

Right now the PlayStation console is basically a timed exclusive box for 1P games with a window of likely one year, probably shorter with upcoming releases like Death Stranding 2 and Ghosts of Yotei. I won't be surprised if Day 1 Steam is a thing by the end of the generation, for all games.

Not saying this because I agree with the idea or approach, but because their actions give me no reason to take pause with that aforementioned viewpoint being their most likely strategy.

  • It's good for the developer - More revenue from potentially 30 million players, a larger player base also means you get more people talking about the game, which means more active users, which draws more people into playing the game
  • It's good for gamers - As I mentioned, more people playing the game. It also means that the developer has more resources to pour into the game.
  • It's good for Microsoft - More revenue
  • It's good for Sony - More revenue
It's only bad for Sony fanboys who think that there is prestige in having something being exclusive. Whether they're playing it or not.

I'll put one caveat on this in that if Sony starts going heavy with PlayStation centric expansions, like tie ins to Killzone, they're probably not going to want those things on Xbox, so this might create a two-tiered system or an IP problem. At the end of the day, I'd be surprised to see it happen.

But eventually you'll see Helldivers (probably Helldivers 3) on mobile, PC, and console. You can already see they're trying to bring in Unreal in the future, whether they move Helldivers 2 to Unreal or make Helldivers 3 on Unreal.

"More people playing the game" is a smokescreen; the Xbox audience who really wanted to play Helldivers 2 either already have a PS5 or a PC to play the game on. They were not discriminated against by SIE from playing the game on the basis of owning an Xbox. So we can stop with this talking point that predicates itself on the idea owners of one platform are being "deprived" games through some systemic action like their civil rights are being ignored.

"It's good for Microsoft". I couldn't give less of a shit. Same with SIE. As a gamer & hobbyist, I don't care if these multinational conglomerates make more revenue or not because clearly, them making record-breaking revenue right now isn't doing much to produce more of the type of content I as a customer would prefer, by and large. And the usual clap-back at this is "well it's not just about you", to which I'd say....so then I should simply ignore my own wants from it altogether? It's funny; people don't tell shareholders that type of rhetoric, I wonder why?

I am not even in disagreement that there will likely be a HD2 port to Xbox, given SIE's modern day trajectories. And with those trajectories, it probably won't stop with Helldivers 2, either. And al of the reasons you mention why it'd be good for parties involved, are obvious go-to points most could see corporates looking at the decision from. But I'm also not here to be a Yes Man to these corporations, either.
 

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Jesus y'all the first page of this thread is pure salt over a community manager telling people that Arrowhead wants to bring the game to Xbox but that it is up to Sony. Not sure why you're so angry that they're telling the truth? Why does it make you guys so angry that Arrowhead is talking like this? Do you think they're supposed to have undying loyalty to Sony and kiss their feet or something? I swear, sometimes I read posts and wonder how one can be so insanely parasocially attached to a brand that they care that a GAAS wants to go crossplat, as it should.
Tell me, you don't know about professionalism without telling me you are clueless about professionalism.
 
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"More people playing the game" is a smokescreen; the Xbox audience who really wanted to play Helldivers 2 either already have a PS5 or a PC to play the game on. They were not discriminated against by SIE from playing the game on the basis of owning an Xbox. So we can stop with this talking point that predicates itself on the idea owners of one platform are being "deprived" games through some systemic action like their civil rights are being ignored.

Please provide evidence of this rather than you once again making baseless assumptions.

Also no one said anything about deprived or rights... that was a weird direction you took this in.
 
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No it's isn't, your bet still sucks. I won't send you money in advance with no guarantee that you won't run away never to be seen again. I'm willing to pay you in 2028 if Sony fails to go day and date by then. Or earlier of course if against all odds they're gonna quit porting games to PC.
Will you pay me if Sony goes day and date before 2028?
You'll be gone by 2028 and I'll have to sit through who knows how many years of you blathering about day and date before then with none of your sucker money to comfort me.

And if I have to wait for my money, you don't get a better return on yours, so happy to bet 100 each way by 2028 on the condition that you never yap about day and date again, (unless it happens). If you do, you pay me.
 
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Jesus y'all the first page of this thread is pure salt over a community manager telling people that Arrowhead wants to bring the game to Xbox but that it is up to Sony. Not sure why you're so angry that they're telling the truth? Why does it make you guys so angry that Arrowhead is talking like this? Do you think they're supposed to have undying loyalty to Sony and kiss their feet or something? I swear, sometimes I read posts and wonder how one can be so insanely parasocially attached to a brand that they care that a GAAS wants to go crossplat, as it should.
Lol. Lmao even. It is crossplat. Steamlickers get to 'enjoy' the game as well. Xbox is a non-entity where nothing sells.
 
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It doesn’t matter which position he has at the company… he still is part of the company and the guy that talks for the company.
And his answer is basically : Sony decides

We all know that Sony decides. Why is this even news? He's probably tired of people asking and he's giving them the most barebones answer possible : "the publisher decides which platforms".

Even the CEO of ArrowHead could say the same thing and nothing would come of it.

This is non-news, except for desperate exbox players.
 
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Jesus y'all the first page of this thread is pure salt over a community manager telling people that Arrowhead wants to bring the game to Xbox but that it is up to Sony. Not sure why you're so angry that they're telling the truth? Why does it make you guys so angry that Arrowhead is talking like this? Do you think they're supposed to have undying loyalty to Sony and kiss their feet or something? I swear, sometimes I read posts and wonder how one can be so insanely parasocially attached to a brand that they care that a GAAS wants to go crossplat, as it should.
He doesn't say AH wants it. Stop reading into things. Exbox is on its way out and the dev team already have their hands full with two platforms. It's a massive success for Sony and they have no reason to port it over.

The "community manager" isn't a dev, isn't in the know. He's a glorified Reddit mod that got a promotion to Discord mod.
 

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And his answer is basically : Sony decides

We all know that Sony decides. Why is this even news? He's probably tired of people asking and he's giving them the most barebones answer possible : "the publisher decides which platforms".

Even the CEO of ArrowHead could say the same thing and nothing would come of it.

This is non-news, except for desperate exbox players.

Some Xbox port beggar asked the question and he gave the obvious polite answer.

That’s all it is.
 

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And his answer is basically : Sony decides

We all know that Sony decides. Why is this even news? He's probably tired of people asking and he's giving them the most barebones answer possible : "the publisher decides which platforms".

Even the CEO of ArrowHead could say the same thing and nothing would come of it.

This is non-news, except for desperate exbox players.
I understand your point.

But it is working against it partner and not with your partner.

It like me creating a Bank App that my partner asked for iOS and when a consumer asks for a Android version I go and blame my partner for that.
I should be fired for that lol

In fact I could just says that actually there is no plan for a future Android version without give names to any part.
 

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If a platform is completly reliant on Port-Begging and "Day and date" trolling, you really know how bad it is.

Xbots and P(irate)C-Players are truly the blunt of delusion of the gaming community.
 
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If only Concord had sold 12 million in 3 months, we'd be having no bad PR or idiotic CM baiting console wars

If I read that while dreaming I'll wake myself up because it's your usual dream trolling you like doing a car accident, flying off the windscreen, then magically sit in a restaurant table and engaging in a normal conversation.
 
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If I read that while dreaming I'll wake myself up because it's your usual dream trolling you like doing a car accident, flying off the windscreen, then magically sit in a restaurant table and engaging in a normal conversation.
How does it feel to hop on the Internet and take everything you read at face value and then try to make some edgy response that ends up falling just as flat as Concords sales?
 
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How does it feel to hop on the Internet and take everything you read at face value and then try to make some edgy response that ends up falling just as flat as Concords sales?
How does it feel to hop on the Internet and take everything you read at face value and then try to make some edgy response that ends up falling just as flat as Concords sales?