Console wars are over. Microsoft ramping up 3rd party development. |UP| Chris Dring: Xbox flatlining in EU, Xbox games coming to PS & less focus on GP

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

At this rate MS won't even sell 3.5 million Xbox consoles globally by EOY.

They'll get a bump maybe from the holidays but not much. I predicted they'd see a 40% drop YOY from 2023 (tracking at OG Xbox levels, that console had a 40% drop in its 4th calendar year from the 3rd), aka at best hit 4.32 million globally this year.

Shit, they may not even do that much!

 

[Gamernyc78]

Xbox handheld confirmed

He's said similar things but I'll add to older thread we had about tht. He said similar during the podcast.

 

[quest4441]

Xbox handheld confirmed

Oh god if this is real it would be so fckin hilarious, We will have the glorious Bugthesda games at at 1080 or less. Xbox forgets they have no mario or zelda, this handheld is soo going to flop- do steam deck numbers

 

[quest4441]

At this rate MS won't even sell 3.5 million Xbox consoles globally by EOY.

They'll get a bump maybe from the holidays but not much. I predicted they'd see a 40% drop YOY from 2023 (tracking at OG Xbox levels, that console had a 40% drop in its 4th calendar year from the 3rd), aka at best hit 4.32 million globally this year.

Shit, they may not even do that much!

Its actually kinda funny that in a year where Playstation is going to sell around 22 million units and is considered a failure by "analysts and pundits" xbox is on track to sell maybe a quarter of that at best. GTA VI will finally be the game that finally breaks the camels back if it gets delayed to 2026 as sales are collapsing in 2024 then they will surely be non existent come 2025

 

[iAMJeffy]

This is Europe ?

 

[Evilms]

This is Europe ?

EUROPE + UK + US + JPN

 

[panda-zebra]

That GI.biz podcast was . Dring bringing the direct quotes and a gauge of the industy mood form GDC...and it's spicy.

Dring's words
Devs/pubs quoted by Dring re: xbox


"The phrase one major company who released a big major game last year said was..."

"I don't know why we bothered supporting it"

"...and now you've got 3rd party publishers going:"

"*throws hands in air, shrugs*... we're putting a lot of effort in making a series s version, and an x version of a game, and to be honest the market for us is PC and ps5"

"With xbox putting some of the games on ps5, and from what I understand the majority of them will be coming across at some point assuming it progresses as xbox believes it probably will, I think xbox is in real trouble as a hardware manufacturer. That was the thing that came out of GDC for me".

"I've always been of the belief 'oh, it's just the Game Pass delivery system, it's got a good UI, it's got a good controller, it you like xbox games it's probably the best way to play them etc., I thought it would be fine... I didn't really factor in that some developers and publishers might just go...

"is there any point?"

"They're talking about making more powerful hardware and the next generations of devices, but they need to make sure it makes sense for studios to make versions of their games for that system."

"That was the other thing I was hearing coming out of GDC..."

"Just what the hell is going on with xbox?"


My guess for big game of last year and not sure why they supported it: Larian's masterpiece. A lot of effort, a lot of fuss, and undoubtedly $fuckall in return.

 

[Dabaus]

"The major company who released a big game last year said they don't know why they bother supporting it. We've mentioned in a previous podcast that retailers are considering or have began cutting back Xbox stock on their shelves, hardware & games... and now you've got third-party publishers going: "We're putting a lot of effort into creating an Xbox Series S/X version of a game where to be honest with you the market for us is PC and PS5"

The bolded is probably Larian or WB but I imagine this could be any Japanese publisher as well. I will say i am surprised a Japanese publisher hasnt come out formally dropped xbox yet. I predict when that day happens many others would follow quickly.

 

[Cool hand luke]

"The major company who released a big game last year said they don't know why they bother supporting it. We've mentioned in a previous podcast that retailers are considering or have began cutting back Xbox stock on their shelves, hardware & games... and now you've got third-party publishers going: "We're putting a lot of effort into creating an Xbox Series S/X version of a game where to be honest with you the market for us is PC and PS5"

The bolded is probably Larian or WB but I imagine this could be any Japanese publisher as well. I will say i am surprised a Japanese publisher hasnt come out formally dropped xbox yet. I predict when that day happens many others would follow quickly.

Larian. HogLegs sold next to nothing on PC, comparatively. WB and JP pubs would've made sense if they had said Switch. PC sells about on par with Xbox for most multiplat games.

 

[FatKaz]

Xbox handheld confirmed

Good maybe it will light a fire under sonys ass.

 

[Sunrise Ninja]

Larian. HogLegs sold next to nothing on PC, comparatively. WB and JP pubs would've made sense if they had said Switch. PC sells about on par with Xbox for most multiplat games.

That's just fake news.

Good maybe it will light a fire under sonys ass.

You still believe anything Phil Spencer says

He's only saying that to keep the embers alight, by this time next year Xbox will be ashes.

 

[JAHGamer]

This guy was one of the biggest Xbox fanboys he moved completely over to PC

 

[JAHGamer]

This guy was one of the biggest Xbox fanboys he moved completely over to PC

this guy literally just switched over from Xbox to PC and wasted no time immediately bashing consoles

I'll never forgive Microsoft for creating some of the worst and most insufferable "PC gamers" ever

 

[Yurinka]

Jimbo will say goodbye almost outselling Xbox 4:1 and having MS publishing their games on PS.

It's Brazzers material.

 

[Cool hand luke]

That's just fake news.

No, it's not. Here's the full 2023 breakdown from two major markets.

UK 2023 |PS5:1.2m, NSW: 720k, XBS: 650k| PS commands 49% market share/Xbox only 10%. PS5 up 55% and Xbox down 14% Flipbook info added.

Updated 3/7/24 Flipbook info added https://flipbook-livid.vercel.app/deploy/examples/assets/pdf/book.pdf https://www.gamesindustry.biz/uk-pc-and-console-sales-grew-26-in-2023-uk-annual-report-1 A big year for PS5, but sales drops elsewhere 2.38 million games consoles were sold...

icon-era.com

France 2023 VG Market: PS5 saves the day, PC tanks

After two years of shortage, the arrival of substantial stocks of PlayStation 5 consoles boosted French purchases significantly, reaching 6.1 billion euros. However, clouds are looming on the horizon. "There is a real disconnect between the video game market and the state of the industry," notes...

icon-era.com

Note the revenue generated and units sold by PC software compared to consoles, incl individual platforms.

Japan is another one. People have bought into the hype that Steam CCUs means tons of sales but that's the fake news. The reality is that of the major releases of last year, PC only nosed ahead for Diablo IV.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

That GI.biz podcast was . Dring bringing the direct quotes and a gauge of the industy mood form GDC...and it's spicy.

Dring's words
Devs/pubs quoted by Dring re: xbox


"The phrase one major company who released a big major game last year said was..."

"I don't know why we bothered supporting it"

"...and now you've got 3rd party publishers going:"

"*throws hands in air, shrugs*... we're putting a lot of effort in making a series s version, and an x version of a game, and to be honest the market for us is PC and ps5"

"With xbox putting some of the games on ps5, and from what I understand the majority of them will be coming across at some point assuming it progresses as xbox believes it probably will, I think xbox is in real trouble as a hardware manufacturer. That was the thing that came out of GDC for me".

"I've always been of the belief 'oh, it's just the Game Pass delivery system, it's got a good UI, it's got a good controller, it you like xbox games it's probably the best way to play them etc., I thought it would be fine... I didn't really factor in that some developers and publishers might just go...

"is there any point?"

"They're talking about making more powerful hardware and the next generations of devices, but they need to make sure it makes sense for studios to make versions of their games for that system."

"That was the other thing I was hearing coming out of GDC..."

"Just what the hell is going on with xbox?"


My guess for big game of last year and not sure why they supported it: Larian's masterpiece. A lot of effort, a lot of fuss, and undoubtedly $fuckall in return.

That's where the news is hidden. I was reading it elsewhere but there was nothing here. It's hard to follow the conversation this way

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

So original.

Can we get an Xbox pager please?

We will have all these people acting like this is the first portable gaming device for some obscure reason.

 

[Evilms]

credit to enpleinjour from IB.

 

[quest4441]

credit to enpleinjour from IB.

Man Playstation really pulling this industry along, if more games released on switch from the major 3rd parties then xbox would be dead dog last as usual

 

[quest4441]

Anyways It's a bloodbath in the retardera thread, Xbox has attracted a core audience of penny pinchers and plain obnoxious people so no wonder the brand is failing.