DF Weekly: If Xbox Series X is more powerful, why do some PS5 games run better?

[Nhomnhom]

God damn, I thought that guy knew a thing or two about making games.

He was just picking who was their biggest partner at the time and throwing shade at their biggest competitor. NVidia was also throwing a lot of shade at PlayStation at the time.

Valve has a long history of hating on Sony and they probably still very indisposed with them seen as how they don't reciprocate anything (PlayStation supports Steam but Valve doesn't support PlayStation at all not even on the VR front where they try to work together with everyone).

It's smart from Valve and NVidia to acknowledge who their direct competitor is, the same can't be said about Sony (that sees both as partners).

 

[Gediminas]

Sony, like Microsoft, marketed that we will be able to play in 4K120 without any problems. Even the PlayStation 5 box says 4K120. They both lied to us that their consoles are capable of that, and that's why I will never trust Sony and Microsoft again when it comes to their consoles.

yes, it supports 4k120, that what those markings means. and we have plenty of sony games displayed in 4k and has 120hz mode.
it is all about support, as sony is not responsible how devs will make their game, it is not their call.

so they didn't lie at all.

 

[ethomaz]

yes, it supports 4k120, that what those markings means. and we have plenty of sony games displayed in 4k and has 120hz mode.
it is all about support, as sony is not responsible how devs will make their game, it is not their call.

so they didn't lie at all.

Yeap... there are games that prove that 4k120fps is supported.

What we can discuss is if the 8k support even for video (media) was really a lie or not... because today PS5 can't output anything at 8K... it is not an option even for media.
At PS5 release Sony said 8k was for future media content and it should be implemented in the system but we are 4 years in the gen and nothing was added.

 

[Necromancer]

yes, it supports 4k120, that what those markings means. and we have plenty of sony games displayed in 4k and has 120hz mode.
it is all about support, as sony is not responsible how devs will make their game, it is not their call.

so they didn't lie at all.

PS5 and Xbox Series X are too weak to run demanding games at 4K120. Sony and Microsoft are liars to me because they falsely advertise their consoles. When it comes to fps in games, I will always choose PC over consoles, which are quite weak.

 

[Necromancer]

Yeap... there are games that prove that 4k120fps is supported.

What we can discuss is if the 8k support even for video (media) was really a lie or not... because today PS5 can't output anything at 8K... it is not an option even for media.
At PS5 release Sony said 8k was for future media content and it should be implemented in the system but we are 4 years in the gen and nothing was added.

The only one that can run games in 8K is the GeForce RTX 4090, and this clearly proves that the PS5 does not have the power to run games in 8K.

Connect, play, capture, and watch in brilliant HDR at resolutions up to 8K with the GeForce RTX 4090

NVIDIA 8K HDR & DLSS Technology

The Pinnacle of Gaming.

www.nvidia.com

 

[ethomaz]

The only one that can run games in 8K is the GeForce RTX 4090, and this clearly proves that the PS5 does not have the power to run games in 8K.

Connect, play, capture, and watch in brilliant HDR at resolutions up to 8K with the GeForce RTX 4090

NVIDIA 8K HDR & DLSS Technology

The Pinnacle of Gaming.

www.nvidia.com

There is a game that run in 8k on PS5.
But the system can't output 8K yet so it is down sampled to 4k.

So I have no ideia what you are talking about "can't" if we already have examples that it can.

The Touryst is the first 8K 60fps game for PS5

Shin'en Multimedia's brilliant game - The Touryst - is now available for PS4 and PS5 consoles and it is now confirmed a…

www.eurogamer.net

 

[Gediminas]

PS5 and Xbox Series X are too weak to run demanding games at 4K120. Sony and Microsoft are liars to me because they falsely advertise their consoles. When it comes to fps in games, I will always choose PC over consoles, which are quite weak.

yet again, it is about support not that PS5 will run 4k120 AAA games. you combining 2 different things.

 

[Necromancer]

There is a game that run in 8k on PS5.
But the system can't output 8K yet so it is down sampled to 4k.

So I have no ideia what you are talking about "can't" if we already have examples that it can.

The Touryst is the first 8K 60fps game for PS5

Shin'en Multimedia's brilliant game - The Touryst - is now available for PS4 and PS5 consoles and it is now confirmed a…

www.eurogamer.net

PlayStation 5 does not run that game in 8K at all, but uses supersampling.

 

[ethomaz]

PlayStation 5 does not run that game in 8K at all, but uses supersampling.

It does run like I posted.

the game internally renders at 7680x4320 - no temporal super-sampling, no reprojection, no checkerboarding, no AI upscaling. It's full-on 4320p.

Full native 8k.

 

[Plextorage]

How the hell this thread doesn't have this post??

 

[Necromancer]

yet again, it is about support not that PS5 will run 4k120 AAA games. you combining 2 different things.

I want consoles to have unlocked fps like PC has

 

[ethomaz]

I want consoles to have unlocked fps like PC has

You want a PC not a console

 

[Necromancer]

How the hell this thread doesn't have this post??

PS5 and Xbox will never have a great gaming experience in games like PC because they are too weak and unnecessary, i.e. I want PC to completely replace them. PC will always be a better platform than Xbox and PlayStation for video games.

 

[Plextorage]

I want consoles to have unlocked fps like PC has

Em..... Framerate in COD jumps from 90 to 120fps. There you go.

 

[ethomaz]

PS5 and Xbox will never have a great gaming experience in games like PC because they are too weak and unnecessary, i.e. I want PC to completely replace them. PC will always be a better platform than Xbox and PlayStation for video games.

Sure.... but a lot of gamers doesn't care about PC
So PC will never replace consoles even if you want it.

 

[Gediminas]

PlayStation 5 does not run that game in 8K at all, but uses supersampling.

and how supersampling achieved? by running game above native resolution. so game runs at 8k but supersampled to 4k, it still pushes 8k pixels.

 

[Necromancer]

Em..... Framerate in COD jumps from 90 to 120fps. There you go.

PS and Xbox will never be able to run games in eg 144fps like PC because they are too weak for such a thing. PC gamers make fun of PS and Xbox gamers for a reason.

 

[Gediminas]

PS and Xbox will never be able to run games in eg 144fps like PC because they are too weak for such a thing. PC gamers make fun of PS and Xbox gamers for a reason.

just idiots makes fun of PS gamers and all around console gamers.

 

[Necromancer]

Sure.... but a lot of gamers doesn't care about PC
So PC will never replace consoles even if you want it.

PC Gaming Is Growing Faster Than Consoles, Data Shows

Last year, thanks to games like Baldur's Gate III, PC gaming made more money than in 2022

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Activision is making more money on PC than consoles for the first time, and the gap is widening

There's gold in these personalized computing hills, and Activision Blizzard is taking notice.

www.pcgamer.com

50 years of PC vs console gaming revenue visualized, PC maintains lead over consoles - VR, mobile, and handheld market data included

PC games have generated more revenue than console games for the past 10 years, but mobile dwarfs them both.

www.tomshardware.com

Capcom say PC will remain their “main platform” as mobile releases ramp up with Resident Evil on iPhone

But would “gracefully decline” a buyout offer from Microsoft.

www.rockpapershotgun.com

 

[ethomaz]

PC Gaming Is Growing Faster Than Consoles, Data Shows

Last year, thanks to games like Baldur's Gate III, PC gaming made more money than in 2022

kotaku.com

Activision is making more money on PC than consoles for the first time, and the gap is widening

There's gold in these personalized computing hills, and Activision Blizzard is taking notice.

www.pcgamer.com

50 years of PC vs console gaming revenue visualized, PC maintains lead over consoles - VR, mobile, and handheld market data included

PC games have generated more revenue than console games for the past 10 years, but mobile dwarfs them both.

www.tomshardware.com

Capcom say PC will remain their “main platform” as mobile releases ramp up with Resident Evil on iPhone

But would “gracefully decline” a buyout offer from Microsoft.

www.rockpapershotgun.com

Ok.

Nothing of that go against anything I said...

BTW excluding some games... overall consoles games generate more sales than PC.