[Digital Foundry] 'Too Big' For Steam Deck? TLOU Part 1, Hogwarts Legacy, Resident Evil 4 + More Tested!
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This is what the Nintendo Switch 2 or whatever they are going to call it or make another like the Switch should offer in performance if Nintendo and Nvidia play it right. But the processor on these handhelds is AMD and it seems like AMD has beaten Nvidia when it comes to mobile chips. Because to this day, I have not seen a chip that is capable enough from Nvidia, They still have the Tegra 2 and there have not been any words on a 3rd one for the mass market.
Anyways enough of that, good decent video I guess.
Anyways enough of that, good decent video I guess.
PC is not the right place for these very demanding games anymore, the architecture is all wrong and requires thousands and thousands more to compensate for the bad design.
You need dedicated gaming machines to get a good performance per dollar etc.
Dedicated gaming machines are the future.
You need dedicated gaming machines to get a good performance per dollar etc.
Dedicated gaming machines are the future.
Dedicated gaming machines are the future. Love the sound of it.
I think that should be the Icon Era motto. It's time gamers also play the psychologically mind shaping marketing game. Buzzwords galore.
PC handhelds are here to stay, as this ASUS Ally news cycle clearly demonstrates. There's going to be more powerful handheld units every 6 months, and developers will make better use of PC hardware, which the vid shows is still an issue. Betting against PC is betting against progress. Woe unto those who cling to dying, static hardware.
I expect from now future titles miss Steam Deck because the lack of power.
Hardware manufacturers are in a trick point because they can’t shrink like in the past… the new process models are very similar after 16nm and they are just marketing names.
There are improvements but the improvements are in the 10-20% range when a new process shrink should cut the previous process in half.
Looking at actual 5nm, 6nm, 7nm, 8nm, etc they are more similar to 10-12nm in old scale but for marketing use they chooses se to use new names (AMD tried in the past to use 7+ 7++ 7+++ but the ideia died pretty fast).
The point is hardware is not moving enough to new devices have enough power for a generation jump and that is even more issue in the portable market… devices are near the limit of what they can reach with that form fact and power envelop… new versions will have very little improvement over the previous one.
Nintendo is facing that for years already… let’s see if they will find a smart solution or accept their sucessor won’t have the power improvement you see in new generations.
BTW the weird Pro models are in trick places too… anything Sony tries right now will be barely a upgrade from PS5.
Hardware manufacturers are in a trick point because they can’t shrink like in the past… the new process models are very similar after 16nm and they are just marketing names.
There are improvements but the improvements are in the 10-20% range when a new process shrink should cut the previous process in half.
Looking at actual 5nm, 6nm, 7nm, 8nm, etc they are more similar to 10-12nm in old scale but for marketing use they chooses se to use new names (AMD tried in the past to use 7+ 7++ 7+++ but the ideia died pretty fast).
The point is hardware is not moving enough to new devices have enough power for a generation jump and that is even more issue in the portable market… devices are near the limit of what they can reach with that form fact and power envelop… new versions will have very little improvement over the previous one.
Nintendo is facing that for years already… let’s see if they will find a smart solution or accept their sucessor won’t have the power improvement you see in new generations.
BTW the weird Pro models are in trick places too… anything Sony tries right now will be barely a upgrade from PS5.
Old games with deep discount, emulators, strategy games, first-person-shooters, MOBAs, MMOs, etc. That's the stuff PC is good for, new AAA single player gaming ain't it for PC, maybe one day if it overcomes how shit DirectX is.
The Steam Deck is great for what it is, but it's not the place to play TLoU Part I, that will only do the game a big disservice. That's how we get the morons going on about how they don't get the hype for Sony games after experience a terrible low quality version on a portable.
The Steam Deck is great for what it is, but it's not the place to play TLoU Part I, that will only do the game a big disservice. That's how we get the morons going on about how they don't get the hype for Sony games after experience a terrible low quality version on a portable.
I forget to say.
There is a workaround for that issue happening with Steam Deck.
Do games specifically for it like Nintendo do with Switch and Sony do with PS5.
A portable and consoles should play it own games/ports and not try to play games developed to PC.
For example if Steam Deck had a Hogwarts Legenda port like Switch will get then it should be pretty good… now trying to run the PC versions ends to an unplayable state.
There is a workaround for that issue happening with Steam Deck.
Do games specifically for it like Nintendo do with Switch and Sony do with PS5.
A portable and consoles should play it own games/ports and not try to play games developed to PC.
For example if Steam Deck had a Hogwarts Legenda port like Switch will get then it should be pretty good… now trying to run the PC versions ends to an unplayable state.
Who the hell expects to play a poor port of a PS5 game on a steam deck? The deck is not even as powerful as a base Xbox one GPU wise.
These mobile chips are very unbalanced. You see all these gaming handhelds with extremely powerful 8/16 CPUs,lots of memory and anemic GPUs. GPU performance should always be the priority for gaming.
These mobile chips are very unbalanced. You see all these gaming handhelds with extremely powerful 8/16 CPUs,lots of memory and anemic GPUs. GPU performance should always be the priority for gaming.
Damn, this is wrong on so many levels. Not only it's more powerful, it's on a much more modern node. TF wise it's close to the PS4, and we know terrorflops are not the best measure.
edit - It also has more and much faster ram, way more capable CPU...
I though the memory was slow and bootleneck for a PS4’s GPU level.
Everything else is pretty good… well the size is not but that only if you want something really portable.
For these that like article:
www.eurogamer.net
There are some useful coparision tools with Forza Horizon 5.
ROG Ally in Portable mode runs games better in 1080p than Steam Deck in 720p.
Too big for Steam Deck? The most demanding PC games tested
Oliver challenges the Steam Deck to run the most demanding titles, from TLOU P1 and Hogwarts Legacy to RE4, Dead Space remake and Redfall.
www.eurogamer.net
There are some useful coparision tools with Forza Horizon 5.
ROG Ally in Portable mode runs games better in 1080p than Steam Deck in 720p.
How can we assume that it would be suicidal for Nintendo & Nvidia or more like Nvidia to not make a chip that is comparable to what AMD mobile chips can already offer and will offer by the time the Nintendo Switch 2 or whatever it's going to be called comes out? We can't assume anything just yet.
Nvidia will do what Nintendo contracts, and Nintendo doesn't need anywhere near Steam Deck's power. They need backwards compatibility with Switch, and they need stronger battery life than we've seen from APU-based handhelds. They're not going to sell a device as chunky as the Deck to kids by the 10s of millions. It'll be another ARM chip paired with an updated tegra-grade gpu. Likely 8GB ram.
lol so many things wrong with this.
Plus it will be way smaller than Steam Deck.
For 2024 I hope something better happens and Nintendo can reach at least something around PS4 level with similar Switch size.