Dragon Age: The Veilguard | Review Thread

What scores do you think Dragon Age: The Veilguard will get?

  • 55-60%

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • 61-64%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 65-69%

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • 70-74%

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • 75-79%

    Votes: 3 15.8%
  • 80-84%

    Votes: 11 57.9%
  • 85-89%

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • 90-94%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 95-100%

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    19
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quest4441

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Asia is not into Bioware titles.
If you check reviews breakdown by language on Steam you'll see that they're a very small minority compared to more modern games.

Main reason for that is that EA didn't support them.

Looking at Steam for languages supported for Dragon Age:

Dragon Age: Origins:
English
Italian
Spanish - Spain
Germany

Dragon Age 2:
English
French
Italian
German
Polish
Portuguese - Brazil
Russian

Dragon Age: Inquisition:
English
French
Italian
German
Spanish - Spain
Japanese
Polish
Portuguese - Brazil
Russian


This makes sense because 2009-2014 and a very console focused RPG franchise meant that EA really didn't care about those markets back in the day.
These games except for dragon age origins were locked to the EA store and PC gaming as a whole was down in the dumps in that period, within the last 10 yrs very successful games on PC have a large % of their sales occur in Asia. In this day and age you need Asia and the western sales are no longer enough.
 

CrackmanNL

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Did better than expected, might pick it up on a down time if I do ever and then realise like every DA game before, I don't enjoy it like BioWare's other older series.
 

Thirty7ven

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It’s sad that they turned this into a purple haired fantasy game that looks like a cross of My Little Pony and Fortnite and hacks still don’t know how to weave in inclusivity in a seamless and poignant way instead of this in your face, awful writing, looks dumb sounds dumb way.

The problem isn’t that it’s there, by all means, get that in there just… don’t make it look so lame.
 
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ToTTenTranz

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Did better than expected


Did better than expected in terms of what?

You didn't expect all the access media to claim this game is excellent, like they did for Concord?



Knowing that EA/Bioware only gave review codes to the subset of people they invited to the preview event and then published super enthusiastic positivity for it, how was this initial metascore not going to be high?

Just think about this: they paid for the trips of a bunch of people (like Fextralife) to go there and play the game for 6 hours. That was an investment of several thousand dollars. But then refused to give some of those same people a $60 review code, like they did with Fextralife.



I just hope there's not a lot of people trusting these media outlets, thinking the game is actually good when the story, dialogue and combat gameplay are horrid. Though people in this thread being informed of what's happening and pre-ordering the game deserve what they'll get IMO.
 
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Vertigo

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How did they make a BioWare game where you don’t have an evil path?
 

Boswollox

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To add some story to this, the writer/director who previous took a break after Anthem, stated his goal was to see reviews of DA:V (which he worked on) using that exact phrase.

This is the most AstroTurf launched in gaming and doing it so close to concord is playing with fire. The kindling is set, it only takes one arsonist to light the touch paper and this thing is going to blow up in journalists faces.

Something something ethics in journalism.
 

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Writer Breaks Down, Analyzes the Incompetent Dialogue Writing of Dragon Age The Veilguard


 

DarkLordOtaku

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To add some story to this, the writer/director who previous took a break after Anthem, stated his goal was to see reviews of DA:V (which he worked on) using that exact phrase.

This is the most AstroTurf launched in gaming and doing it so close to concord is playing with fire. The kindling is set, it only takes one arsonist to light the touch paper and this thing is going to blow up in journalists faces.

Something something ethics in journalism.
Typically, when you see phrases or descriptions repeated like this in reviews, it's because this language was included in the review guides for the reviewers.

I'm not saying it's right, or good, but it's often used as a timesaver for the reviewers, who are often under review crunch to beat the game and review it in a limited time.
 
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Gediminas

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Typically, when you see phrases or descriptions repeated like this in reviews, it's because this language was included in the review guides for the reviewers.

I'm not saying it's right, or good, but it's often used as a timesaver for the reviewers, who are often under review crunch to beat the game and review it in a limited time.
most of these reviewers aren't playing more than 5-10 hours, let alone finish the game and they are getting games review copies a week or more in advance.
there is 0 reason to use the same rhetoric in countless reviews, unless, these reviews strictly curated by EA-Bioware themselves.
 
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DarkLordOtaku

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most of these reviewers aren't playing more than 5-10 hours, let alone finish the game and they are getting games review copies a week or more in advance.
there is 0 reason to use the same rhetoric in countless reviews, unless, these reviews strictly curated by EA-Bioware themselves.
I'm not a game reviewer. If I was a game reviewer though, and I was only playing a small amount of a game and needed to formulate an opinion based on limited amount of information, I might look for shortcuts to writing my analysis.

If a publisher sent me a piece of paper with the game, which has an introductory paragraph like:

"Dragon Age Veilguard is a return to form, where you select a hero from one of ten classes and..."

I might be tempted to paraphrase, or explicitly copy the language used in this document. Likewise, if I observe others using this language in private discord servers I'm a part of, I might likewise be influenced to use similar language in my own review.

All this is to say, there are scenarios where you can have reviews reading very similarly, without an explicit quid pro quo influence of a publisher.
 

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I'm not a game reviewer. If I was a game reviewer though, and I was only playing a small amount of a game and needed to formulate an opinion based on limited amount of information, I might look for shortcuts to writing my analysis.

If a publisher sent me a piece of paper with the game, which has an introductory paragraph like:

"Dragon Age Veilguard is a return to form, where you select a hero from one of ten classes and..."

I might be tempted to paraphrase, or explicitly copy the language used in this document. Likewise, if I observe others using this language in private discord servers I'm a part of, I might likewise be influenced to use similar language in my own review.

All this is to say, there are scenarios where you can have reviews reading very similarly, without an explicit quid pro quo influence of a publisher.
Very interesting analysis

Weird that when i check other game review like astrobot, black myth wukong, space marine 2 etc it doesnt have gaming journalist parroting the same thing for those games

This one must be a peculiar exception
 
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Boswollox

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Replace reviewers with chatgpt if that's the case. If they're not playing the game then cutting corners, their opinion is worthless.
 
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DarkLordOtaku

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Replace reviewers with chatgpt if that's the case. If they're not playing the game then cutting corners, their opinion is worthless.
There is a real component here which ought to be considered as well.

If these outlets do not have a formalized policy on managing content produced from generative AI, this is another real context where you could see very similar terminology & lexicons being used.

Granted, this would require a fair bit of editing, as LLMs would not be able to handle the recency of new information. However, were they to have been trained on promotional material from a year or two prior, that's possible.

On my list of possible reasons for similar language though, this is pretty low, and dipping into conspiracy territory.
 
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