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[Darth Vader]

But according to Digital Foundry founder Rich Leadbetter, speaking in the latest episode of DF Direct, the PS5 Pro’s CPU means GTA 6 will probably run at 30fps, assuming GTA 6 runs at 30fps on the standard PS5. Given no GTA game has launched with a 60fps option, this one seems nailed on.

Richard Bellender knows fuck all.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Off topic but is today Circana/NPDs?

No, tomorrow..

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[AshHunter216]

Strategy seems to be to downplay the hell out of the PS5 Pro and try to get people to buy GTA 6 on Xbox instead. Parris and Ryan McCaffrey are really obvious about it.

 

[Old Gamer]

"Experts" LOL

 

[Nhomnhom]

Strategy seems to be to downplay the hell out of the PS5 Pro and try to get people to buy GTA 6 on Xbox instead. Parris and Ryan McCaffrey are really obvious about it.

No chance of it ever working, only a complete fool would buy an Xbox after the Series S and Series X disaster.

MS never learns from past mistakes apparently.

 

[AshHunter216]

No chance of it ever working, only a complete fool would buy an Xbox after the Series S and Series X disaster.

MS never learns from past mistakes apparently.

They're pushing the idea that GTA6 will sell better on Xbox than PlayStation because the Series S is cheaper, even though that idea has failed all generation.

 

[Gamernyc78]

They're pushing the idea that GTA6 will sell better on Xbox than PlayStation because the Series S is cheaper, even though that idea has failed all generation.

Thts not even an idea or based on reality. Thts plain old astroturfing and pushing an agenda. No game has sold better on Xbox especially since Sony has outsold the Xbox cumulatively almost 3 to 1. There are way more PS5 consoles out there and thts why every Circana and sales info thread the splits on games look like this

5% Xbox
70% playstation
25% Switch.

 

[Nhomnhom]

They're pushing the idea that GTA6 will sell better on Xbox than PlayStation because the Series S is cheaper, even though that idea has failed all generation.

Only a complete idiot would buy a Series S over a PS5 DE because of the price difference.

To be honest I don't understand how anyone can buy a Series S for $330~350 (the price that I'm seen on Amazon right now).

 

[Gediminas]

Richard Bellender knows fuck all.

We can see what he is doing - straight forward, FUD and even slander at PS5 PRO.

 

[Dabaus]

Strategy seems to be to downplay the hell out of the PS5 Pro and try to get people to buy GTA 6 on Xbox instead. Parris and Ryan McCaffrey are really obvious about it.

Great point.

 

[AshHunter216]

Thts not even an idea or based on reality. Thts plain old astroturfing and pushing an agenda. No game has sold better on Xbox especially since Sony has outsold the Xbox cumulatively almost 3 to 1. There are way more PS5 consoles out there and thts why every Circana and sales info thread the splits on games look like this

5% Xbox
70% playstation
25% Switch.

I wonder if MS directly feeds these guys talking points or if they're such massive Xbox fanboys that they do this stuff on their own.

 

[Dabaus]

I wonder if MS directly feeds these guys talking points or if they're such massive Xbox fanboys that they do this stuff on their own.

Probably both.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Probably both.

Yup, we saw from past leaks astroturfing is indeed real with Microsoft marketing although any sane person already knew tht.

 

[rinzler]

It's 33.5 TFLOPs at 2.18GHz.
People just need to stop using max theoretical TFLOPs as gaming performance metrics. If this wasn't obvious to everyone before we saw how the Series X doesn't run anywhere near 20% faster than the PS5, then it should be now.

This mistake isn't new, though. >20 years ago we were all counting pixel and texel fillrate as metrics to compare console performance. And although they're still very important now (probably the biggest reason why the PS5 matches the Series X in real-world performance is its advantage in fillrate and triangle setup), no one is looking at those numbers nowadays.

We all know this, but we also know it will perform to the sum of the rough equivalent of a 16.7 teraflop RDNA 2 GPU. That's the point being made.

 

[xollowsob]

Richard Bellender knows fuck all.

He hates Sony and was absolutely seething with how good the ps5 and PSVR2 are.
It nearly killed him to praise, and apologise for knocking, the PS5 hardware.

 

[Old Gamer]

We all know this, but we also know it will perform to the sum of the rough equivalent of a 16.7 teraflop RDNA 2 GPU. That's the point being made.

The Pro isn't RDNA2, it's custom based on RDNA3 at least.

 

[rinzler]

The Pro isn't RDNA2, it's custom based on RDNA3 at least.

We are all very aware of this as well, but what nobody else seems to be aware of is that a 35 teraflop RDNA 3 GPU performs to the same degree that a 16 teraflop RDNA 2 GPU does.

 

[Gamernyc78]

The Pro isn't RDNA2, it's custom based on RDNA3 at least.

Yes RDNA 3 with rumor being it has custom RDNA4 features.

 

[Sircaw]

Question for people that understand tech.

These upscale techniques that they use, if an image is upscaled from, say, 1080 to 4k, if the original image was 30fps, does that stay when converted or can that be changed to 60fps?

 

[Gamernyc78]

Question for people that understand tech.

These upscale techniques that they use, if an image is upscaled from, say, 1080 to 4k, if the original image was 30fps, does that stay when converted or can that be changed to 60fps?

On PS systems it's been that if upscaled, fps could raised be raised as well as long as the game was "uncapped" in framerate