Famitsu Sales: November 4-10 l PS5 Pro 78K. A great start for the PS5 Pro.

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200k difference in PS4 favor but PS5 + PS5 Pro si selling way more right now.... so it is decreasing.
I think there is 1-1.5 million difference from what I remember between PS4/PS5 in Japan.

I think if they get a price cut next year along with GTA6/Ghost of Yotei and some other games, when Switch 2 is selling hot they could beat PS4 Japan sales and be closer to PS3 sales. But its a long shot to get closer to PS3
200K in favor of PS5 or 1-1.5M in favor of PS4?
 

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200K in favor of PS5 or 1-1.5M in favor of PS4?

I think its closer to what @ethomaz said with 200k in favour of PS4

Same time frame?

A quick quote from VG chartz but not sure if correct

The PS4 crossed 7 million in month 53, 8 million in month 61, and 9 million in month 72. The PS4 has sold 9.68 million units to date. The PS5 is currently 3.56 million units behind the lifetime sales of the PS4 in Japan.

PlayStation 3 total sales in Japan: 10,469,971
 

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200K in favor of PS5 or 1-1.5M in favor of PS4?
There is no way PS4 is 1-1.5m in favor to PS4 when PS4 was behind PS5 until few weeks ago.

From Installbase...

Code:
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|    |    PlayStation 4   |    PlayStation 5   |  Difference  |
|    |    (2014/02/22)    |    (2020/11/12)    |              |
|----|---------|----------|---------|----------|--------------|
|Week|  Weekly |    LTD   |  Weekly |    LTD   |  PS5 - PS4   |
|----|---------|----------|---------|----------|--------------|
| 207|  109.286| 6.296.286|   11.945| 6.105.757|      -190.529|
| 208|   70.172| 6.366.458|   13.965| 6.119.722|      -246.736|
| 209|   48.391| 6.414.849|   88.160| 6.207.882|      -206.967|
| 210|   36.193| 6.451.042|         |          |              |
| 211|   26.843| 6.477.885|         |          |              |
| 212|   27.323| 6.505.208|         |          |              |
| 213|   19.845| 6.525.053|         |          |              |
| 214|   19.175| 6.544.228|         |          |              |
| 215|   21.569| 6.565.797|         |          |              |
| 216|   13.018| 6.578.815|         |          |              |
|----|---------|----------|---------|----------|--------------|

And a graph... PS5 was leading for a long time until few weeks ago.

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Please pray for the doomers, they need all the support they can get in this dire time.
Keep the same energy when once the launch period has cooled off as well

With that said these are definitely better numbers than I was expecting but there is a core loyal base for PlayStation everywhere. More interested in seeing where these numbers settle and if it will be able to keep pace with the PS4 Pro
 

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Good news.

Do you know how the PS5+PS5 Pro vs PS4+PS4 Pro sales are launch aligned in Japan right now? I have no idea, but I assume should be close.

PS4 Pro launch week
  • Total : 93.512
  • Pro : 65.194
  • PS4 : 28.318
LTD : 3.445.990
Aligned, Week 208 : 6.366.458 (february 11, 2018)


PS5 Pro launch week
  • Total : 88.160
  • Pro : 78.086
  • PS5 : 8.571
LTD : 6.207.882
Aligned, Week 208 : 6.207.882 (november 10, 2024)
 
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There is no way PS4 is 1-1.5m in favor to PS4 when PS4 was behind PS5 until few weeks ago.

From Installbase...

Code:
---------------------------------------------------------------
|    |    PlayStation 4   |    PlayStation 5   |  Difference  |
|    |    (2014/02/22)    |    (2020/11/12)    |              |
|----|---------|----------|---------|----------|--------------|
|Week|  Weekly |    LTD   |  Weekly |    LTD   |  PS5 - PS4   |
|----|---------|----------|---------|----------|--------------|
| 207|  109.286| 6.296.286|   11.945| 6.105.757|      -190.529|
| 208|   70.172| 6.366.458|   13.965| 6.119.722|      -246.736|
| 209|   48.391| 6.414.849|   88.160| 6.207.882|      -206.967|
| 210|   36.193| 6.451.042|         |          |              |
| 211|   26.843| 6.477.885|         |          |              |
| 212|   27.323| 6.505.208|         |          |              |
| 213|   19.845| 6.525.053|         |          |              |
| 214|   19.175| 6.544.228|         |          |              |
| 215|   21.569| 6.565.797|         |          |              |
| 216|   13.018| 6.578.815|         |          |              |
|----|---------|----------|---------|----------|--------------|

And a graph... PS5 was leading for a long time until few weeks ago.

2024-11-14-14-41-58.jpg

PS4 Pro launch week
  • Total : 93.512
  • Pro : 65.194
  • PS4 : 28.318
LTD : 3.445.990
Aligned, Week 208 : 6.366.458 (february 11, 2018)


PS5 Pro launch week
  • Total : 88.160
  • Pro : 78.086
  • PS5 : 8.571
LTD : 6.207.882
Aligned, Week 208 : 6.207.882 (november 10, 2024)

Ok thanks, so pretty close in favor of PS4 (around 150K-200K). Maybe with some time limited discount and a few big games more like MH Wilds, DQXII and GTA6 could be passed.

Good job considering the insane pricing of PS5 and PS5 Pro.
 
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This generation has been quite satisfying, every doomer take has been wrong thus far :ROFLMAO:

keep it up guys looking forward to the olympic tier gymnastics on how PS6 is gonna be DoA

Id say the PS brand has taken some hits this gen with the fanbase and some of the games. Some lows for sure

But there profits and revenue is probably still top and plenty of successes. Alot of the dooming is overboard but some is warranted for future worry
 
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Keep the same energy when once the launch period has cooled off as well

With that said these are definitely better numbers than I was expecting but there is a core loyal base for PlayStation everywhere. More interested in seeing where these numbers settle and if it will be able to keep pace with the PS4 Pro

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Always the next thing when proven wrong.

When it does keep pace then you will jump to the PS6.

PlayStation isn’t doomed. Get over this negativity.
 
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Id say the PS brand has taken some hits this gen with the fanbase and some of the games.

But there profits and revenue is probably still top and plenty of successes. Alot of the dooming is overboard
Anything with a fanbase has taken a giant hit in the past 4 years. Fandoms across the board have become insufferable echo chambers.
 

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Id say the PS brand has taken some hits this gen with the fanbase and some of the games.

But there profits and revenue is probably still top and plenty of successes. Alot of the dooming is overboard
I think... well I guess...

PlayStation is facing a big issue for the future of the brand... and the need to start to look into that right now.
I and you are old farts that won't buy PlayStation and their games forever.
To have a band like that you need to get the interest of new consumers... younger gamers.... not the old farts.

The PS6 and mostly like PS7 survive depend of they getting younger gamers on the ecosystem now.

And that is why they are doing a lot of things different and even experiments right now.
They probably have data of how many younger and old active users their have... and it is probably becoming worrisome for them.

They need to have a balance of youngers and older to keep the brand alive.
But they are probably getting a imbalance with way more olders than youngers.

Of course no old fart like when a brand tries to do things to youngers.
But the older as a consumers only last a small period compared with the younger.
 
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Anything with a fanbase has taken a giant hit in the past 4 years. Fandoms across the board have become insufferable echo chambers.

A lot of people, I won't go in to the details on their background, but they're not well, don't realize that the internet is a negative space at the moment.

Influencers, vloggers, what ever you want to call them have realized that negativity drives engagement a lot more than positivity. The result is negative sentiment rules online discourse even if what's happening in reality is quite different.

You see on twitter random acts of violence filled across your feed and if you look into most of them, they're extremely old incidents, but the algorithm brings them to the forefront.

Most of these doomers don't know how to run a business and they take personal slights against them as bad business. "I'll show Sony for betraying me, I won't buy their products and neither will anyone else).

Sony rightfully has determined there isn't much overlap in consumers between console and PC. So there isn't much danger in putting their games on PC and reducing the profit margin ratio. The only ones upset about this are fanboys who feel like this diminishing the value of their plastic box.

They were desperate to see their worldview affirmed and have been pointing to the idea that the PS5 would undersell the PS4... that simply is not likely at this point. Maybe if Nintendo put out a version of the Swtich 2 that was as powerful as the base PS5... but that's not going to happen.
 
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A lot of people, I won't go in to the details on their background, but they're not well, don't realize that the internet is a negative space at the moment.

Influencers, vloggers, what ever you want to call them have realized that negativity drives engagement a lot more than positivity. The result is negative sentiment rules online discourse even if what's happening in reality is quite different.

You see on twitter random acts of violence filled across your feed and if you look into most of them, they're extremely old incidents, but the algorithm brings them to the forefront.

Most of these doomers don't know how to run a business and they take personal slights against them as bad business. "I'll show Sony for betraying me, I won't buy their products and neither will anyone else).

Sony rightfully has determined there isn't much overlap in consumers between console and PC. So there isn't much danger in putting their games on PC and reducing the profit margin ratio. The only ones upset about this are fanboys who feel like this diminishing the value of their plastic box.

They were desperate to see their worldview affirmed and have been pointing to the idea that the PS5 would undersell the PS4... that simply is not likely at this point. Maybe if Nintendo put out a version of the Swtich 2 that was as powerful as the base PS5... but that's not going to happen.
Couldn't have said it better. I have been online in these spaces for a loooooong time and have realized this as the internet becomes more Algorithm based. Negativity wins engagement and engagement is all these platforms want from us, no matter how negative or angry it makes you.

For the whole SBI/DEI folks, they don't even realize their insecurity is being preyed on by ALL media sources, not necessarily a new thing, but more effective than ever since everyone has instant access to everything now (phones). Even in incredibly niche spaces like SIE fandom, a lot of the discussion that sticks is how PC gaming is the boogeyman ready to make your consoles worthless, or even how the PS5 Pro is an utter flop... but reality simply does not reflect that. Internet is in a very fascinating time rn, now designed to get your attention at all costs.
 

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Always the next thing when proven wrong.

When it does keep pace then you will jump to the PS6.

PlayStation isn’t doomed. Get over this negativity.
You are funny! Especially how you flip flop with agreeing with so called doomers today and then tomorrow you're back to claiming we're all haters... Pick a struggle, better not see you agreeing with any of my comments from here on out 😼

Nobody said the PS5 Pro wouldn't sell launch week. And if it you can find a single post of mine ever saying "PlayStation is doomed"... That would be the cherry on top.

With that said, as I said keep the same energy after the honey moon phase.
 

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With that said, as I said keep the same energy after the honey moon phase.
And if the honey moon phase never ends?

I keep hearing it will end since 1994.
Well I’m becoming very old… maybe it ends but on my side in 20, 30 years I hope lol
 

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You are funny! Especially how you flip flop with agreeing with so called doomers today and then tomorrow you're back to claiming we're all haters... Pick a struggle, better not see you agreeing with any of my comments from here on out 😼

Nobody said the PS5 Pro wouldn't sell launch week. And if it you can find a single post of mine ever saying "PlayStation is doomed"... That would be the cherry on top.

With that said, as I said keep the same energy after the honey moon phase.

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And if the honey moon phase never ends?

I keep hearing it will end since 1994.
Well I’m becoming very old… maybe it ends but on my side in 20, 30 years I hope lol
Well for the PS5 Pro you will be able to witness it not long from now 😅

assuming you are referring to consoles here lol