Forspoken System Requirements Hints Developer are Finally Moving to Next-Gen?

[Gediminas]

It's not that Forspoken doesn't look as good as to what you'd think of after seeing these requirements and checking on this game's next-gen only nature, but that it is lagging VERY FAR BEHIND and lacking rendering features already found in an old-gen open-world such as Red Dead Redemption 2 (which looks crispier and straight up better on the Jaguar-powered Xbox One X).

Going back to the specs, this is clearly yet another case of bad PC optimization on Square Enix's end and repeat of what happened with Final Fantasy 7 Remake Intergrade on PC, which turned out the way it was and without any platform-specific features or enhancements due to the fact that Nixxes was no longer there to handle the console-to-PC convertions for SE.

The only remarkable thing about this game is how they blew The Division's downgrade out of the water. Some dirty 1080p screenshots of mine from the YouTube upload of the Project Athia announcement trailer debuted at PS5's reveal:

The lighting model, geometrical detail, LOD and overall scene complexity showcased "running on PlayStation 5" in this first showing of the game is nowhere to be found on the final product, which is a billion light years away from looking this good.

This is why the end result of Forspoken pisses me off on so many levels, because the project's first teaser perfectly encapsulated everything I thought was to be expected in a full-on next-gen only game (hell, I even thought that it gave the Unreal Engine 5 demo, which back then we saw a month before, a good run for its money), but I was lied to by the Luminous guys, once again.

can you read for me what is written below in that trailers?

 

[ethomaz]

Are we comparing a early footage with the Demo?

I need to see the demo yet... I will put it to download.

 

[adamsapple]

Are we comparing a early footage with the Demo?

I need to see the demo yet... I will put it to download.

The final demo is a very far cry from the early target render. Maybe the character models look the same fidelity but the environments are way more simplified, it's the Watch Dogs 1 level of downgrade.

 

[Vertigo]

Still shocked at its pitiful performance. Is that just from the demo or launch build?

I’m trying to wrap my head around why they would even ship it in such a state.

Square was debating selling off various studios and pieces of their company right? Luminous gotta go. Let Microsoft buy them or something.

Saves us FF16. End the era of Nomura Square once and for all.

 

[Swift_Star]

Bizarre how games are releasing unoptimized on PC lately. This game will definitely run the same as PC on PS5 with lower specs. Truly bizarre

Edit: Seems it's not the case. The game is unoptimized on all platforms. What a dud.
Also to @Remij, please don't be salt and stop crying over nothing, get your facts straight before making yourself looking silly.

 

[Perrott]

can you read for me what is written below in that trailers?

"PlayStation 5 development footage shown. Subject to change."

Yes, because the story, character designs, gameplay moveset and abilities, level layout or visuals (interpreted as time of day, color grading, post-processing or art asset placement) might go through alterations of all kinds... but going from that (which is the nature of game dev, and something we all understand) to literally having your next-gen flagship game in terms of the technology deployed in its in-game, running on PlayStation 5 announcement video suddenly look and perform like a mid-tier last generation videogame can only be categorized as false advertisement made with the sole purpose of deceiving the gaming community into putting what in the end turned out to be a mediocre-looking videogame in their radars.

You cannot be on Square Enix's side on this.

 

[ethomaz]

Still shocked at its pitiful performance. Is that just from the demo or launch build?

I’m trying to wrap my head around why they would even ship it in such a state.

Square was debating selling off various studios and pieces of their company right? Luminous gotta go. Let Microsoft buy them or something.

Saves us FF16. End the era of Nomura Square once and for all.

I don't think there is a launch build available yet.
The most close to it should be the pre load build and the review build but that still lacks the Day 1 patch.

Maybe we get impression from the Review Build... when the NDA lift for this game?

 

[ethomaz]

Ok I found when the NDA is over.

Monday, January 23rd at 6:00 a.m. PST

So just a day before release lol

 

[Darth Vader]

"PlayStation 5 development footage shown. Subject to change."

Yes, because the story, character designs, gameplay moveset and abilities, level layout or visuals (interpreted as time of day, color grading, post-processing or art asset placement) might go through alterations of all kinds... but going from that (which is the nature of game dev, and something we all understand) to literally having your next-gen flagship game in terms of the technology deployed in its in-game, running on PlayStation 5 announcement video suddenly look and perform like a mid-tier last generation videogame can only be categorized as false advertisement made with the sole purpose of deceiving the gaming community into putting what in the end turned out to be a mediocre-looking videogame in their radars.

You cannot be on Square Enix's side on this.

It's exactly the same shit that happened with Watch Dogs.

 

[Gediminas]

"PlayStation 5 development footage shown. Subject to change."

Yes, because the story, character designs, gameplay moveset and abilities, level layout or visuals (interpreted as time of day, color grading, post-processing or art asset placement) might go through alterations of all kinds... but going from that (which is the nature of game dev, and something we all understand) to literally having your next-gen flagship game in terms of the technology deployed in its in-game, running on PlayStation 5 announcement video suddenly look and perform like a mid-tier last generation videogame can only be categorized as false advertisement made with the sole purpose of deceiving the gaming community into putting what in the end turned out to be a mediocre-looking videogame in their radars.

You cannot be on Square Enix's side on this.

It clearly states, Subject to change.
So it changed.
Plus they released plenty of videos which shows that it changed. Like a lot a lot video material.

 

[Perrott]

It clearly states, Subject to change.
So it changed.
Plus they released plenty of videos which shows that it changed. Like a lot a lot video material.

Am I supposed to be fucking grateful that they made it worse or something?

 

[FIREK2029]

Time for people to start abandoning those Potato PCs with GTX 1650s filling up the Steam hardware survey.

I don't how we went from the1060 being the dominant GPU to regressing to the GTX 1650.


My 4090 is ready for true next gen games. It's time for devs to leave potato PCs and last gen consoles behind so that we can finally start moving forward.

 

[FIREK2029]

Ok I found when the NDA is over.

Monday, January 23rd at 6:00 a.m. PST

So just a day before release lol

That can't be good lol.

I'm definitely not preordering.

 

[Gediminas]

Am I supposed to be fucking grateful that they made it worse or something?

you supposed not to cry and whine.

they clearly stated that it is subject to change. so Automatically you have to disregard what you see or least, take it with a stone of salt.
it's all on you.

 

[Vertigo]

I’ve never been a fan of hating a game because of downgrades from bullshots. I mean that’s why the term “bullshot” exists.

Almost every time a game is shown pre-release — it’s mock footage. Even when a studio straight tells people it’s running on real hardware — it’s not. It’s a pc emulating performance specs of something else or a lie anyway.

However… that demo performance?? Pitiful. Hopefully that’s not the case with the release copy. Honestly not good for a game on 600$ hardware in 2023.

I am curious to see how this turns out because I have no interest in seeing for myself until it’s on PS plus or Extra in about 8 months.

 

[Gediminas]

I’ve never been a fan of hating a game because of downgrades from bullshots. I mean that’s why the term “bullshot” exists.

Almost every time a game is shown pre-release — it’s mock footage. Even when a studio straight tells people it’s running on real hardware — it’s not. It’s a pc emulating performance specs of something else or a lie anyway.

However… that demo performance?? Pitiful. Hopefully that’s not the case with the release copy. Honestly not good for a game on 600$ hardware in 2023.

I am curious to see how this turns out because I have no interest in seeing for myself until it’s on PS plus or Extra in about 8 months.

game like Anthem build completely fake first trailer. they had nothing. take first trailer and act as it is final game, man, come on, stop this dreamland.

 

[Vertigo]

Anthem’s fake debut was a concept video and nothing more. That’s a good example of the lies most publishers and devs are guilty of. They tried to pass it off as gameplay.

There’s a difference between fake gameplay and downgrades in presentation. The latter is not as big of a deal as long as it doesn’t come as a huge cost to performance like this seemingly has.

Very few games look better or as good as their reveal trailers. That’s why there’s an argument to not show them until they’re ready. Hyping games for years hasn’t really paid off ever.

 

[Gediminas]

Anthem’s fake debut was a concept video and nothing more. That’s a good example of the lies most publishers and devs are guilty of. They tried to pass it off as gameplay.

There’s a difference between fake gameplay and downgrades in presentation. The latter is not as big of a deal as long as it doesn’t come as a huge cost to performance like this seemingly has.

Very few games look better or as good as their reveal trailers. That’s why there’s an argument to not show them until they’re ready. Hyping games for years hasn’t really paid off ever.

be real, both are selling a dream with first trailer. that's how it goes.
movie industry will have to move from it because it will be illegal to do it. you can just hope, games are next.

 

[adamsapple]

I can't believe I spent the bandwidth to download the 'fixed' demo and it still performs poorly. Looks like they only made minor modifications to things like how locking on works between the first release and now.

I think the demo is an actual representation of the final build of the game and it's kinda poor especially for a big budget AAA console exclusive.

 

[Vertigo]

be real, both are selling a dream with first trailer. that's how it goes.
movie industry will have to move from it because it will be illegal to do it. you can just hope, games are next.

What are you even arguing?