[Hiroki Totoki] PS5 Pro's pre-orders are "slightly stronger" than PS4 Pro during the same period

[Fenton]

The sales target includes units from the new PlayStation 5 Pro, which was launched Thursday. In the U.S., the enhanced console carries a price tag of $699.99. While Totoki acknowledged that he has received many comments about this high price, he also showed no signs of changing it.

"It is a high-end product targeted at core customers, so we haven't been eyeing a large sales plan to begin with," the president said. "I'm under the impression that the product is performing slightly stronger than the pre-orders of the PS4 Pro during the same period, so I don't think it is adversely affecting the product's sales plan."

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[AllBizness]

Not surprised, PS5 Pro is the number 1 selling console on Amazon and Gamestop at the moment.

 

[Kokoloko]

Nice, wasnt expecting that.
Glad there is a small market for higher end consoles. Its what alot of us have asked for ages.

I still havent bought mine, been a hectic week

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Waiting for mine to come! Already cleaned my day one PS5 to factory form for the new owner, sold it for a bargain $260 USD (100 OMR) .

 

[quest4441]

selling 1 more pro console than the ps4 pro in the same period is not "slightly better sales" TickTocki.

These mofos lie from top to bottom

 

[ethomaz]

selling 1 more pro console than the ps4 pro in the same period is not "slightly better sales" TickTocki.

These mofos lie from top to bottom

Technically selling 1 more unit is already better sales.

His comments is very good for PS5 Pro.
$700 device having better sales than $400 can’t be twisted as bad.

 

[SuperPotato]

selling 1 more pro console than the ps4 pro in the same period is not "slightly better sales" TickTocki.

These mofos lie from top to bottom

Technically it is.

 

[Dick Jones]

selling 1 more pro console than the ps4 pro in the same period is not "slightly better sales" TickTocki.

These mofos lie from top to bottom

It actually is. That's how the English language works. It's ambiguous and also true. If it sold less or the exact same amount as the PS4 Pro for the same period then he can't say it.

if the PS5 Pro sold loads more, then he is an idiot to understate the demand compared to the PS4 Pro at the time.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

I'll be very surprised if that lasts. Again, first 3 or so months the sales for Pro should be pretty solid. But once they turn the bend in latter half of FQ4 for the FY, I'm expecting sales to go soft. There just aren't as many persistent factors in favor of keeping Pro sales strong long-term vs. the PS4 Pro, and the limited number of big software releases in the meantime (plus the higher price that won't see a cut or sales promo anytime in the 1st year I assume), make this too obvious.

Still going with my 9-10 million lifetime realistic estimate for Pro sales, and that's assuming SIE don't shorten windows of big 1P non-GAAS titles to PC or do Day 1, and they've got a net of big exclusives coming each year for the rest of the gen. Both are things I have some big doubts towards now; for example I'm definitely expecting Death Stranding 2 as a Day 1 Steam & EGS release or with a very short window (3 months tops) before said port, and a Series X/S port is definitely on the table now at most a year from initial release if not also Day 1. I'm also expecting Ghosts of Yotei to get a Steam port at most 1 year after the PS5 release.

These sorts of things will eat into Pro adoption long-term and handicap early adoption of PS6 once that releases. Yes GTA6 will give a bump to Pro sales but I think you're underestimating how many people are already buying Pros (and have already bought PS5s) in anticipation for GTA6's release. A lot may be waiting right until the game releases (I don't think there'll be any bundles), but many also already have their systems.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

I'm under the impression that the product is performing slightly stronger than the pre-orders of the PS4 Pro during the same period

If a CEO is saying he's under the impression about sales numbers for the biggest hardware launch of his company's past 47 months, he's either:

1 - Utterly incompetent because there's no way he hasn't had hard numbers for this at the distance of a phone call or a click.

2 - Choosing his words very carefully because he doesn't want to get caught lying his ass off with false information that could get shareholders suing his ass.

 

[Kokoloko]

I'll be very surprised if that lasts. Again, first 3 or so months the sales for Pro should be pretty solid. But once they turn the bend in latter half of FQ4 for the FY, I'm expecting sales to go soft. There just aren't as many persistent factors in favor of keeping Pro sales strong long-term vs. the PS4 Pro, and the limited number of big software releases in the meantime (plus the higher price that won't see a cut or sales promo anytime in the 1st year I assume), make this too obvious.

Still going with my 9-10 million lifetime realistic estimate for Pro sales, and that's assuming SIE don't shorten windows of big 1P non-GAAS titles to PC or do Day 1, and they've got a net of big exclusives coming each year for the rest of the gen. Both are things I have some big doubts towards now; for example I'm definitely expecting Death Stranding 2 as a Day 1 Steam & EGS release or with a very short window (3 months tops) before said port, and a Series X/S port is definitely on the table now at most a year from initial release if not also Day 1. I'm also expecting Ghosts of Yotei to get a Steam port at most 1 year after the PS5 release.

These sorts of things will eat into Pro adoption long-term and handicap early adoption of PS6 once that releases. Yes GTA6 will give a bump to Pro sales but I think you're underestimating how many people are already buying Pros (and have already bought PS5s) in anticipation for GTA6's release. A lot may be waiting right until the game releases (I don't think there'll be any bundles), but many also already have their systems.

Hopefully the Ghost of Yotei wont be over for at least 2 years. More hopefully. Even though there alot of signs. Surely they’ll miss some double dippers and that will be obvious.

TBH Im excited to see what GTA6 does, I wasnt even a big fan of GTA5 compared to the others, but its been pretty phenomenal, like Fortnite.
Depending on how long Rockstar takes to release it on PC, its gonna do alot of work for PS5/PS6. We know people double/triple dip the franchise.

 

[Kokoloko]

If a CEO is saying he's under the impression about sales numbers for their biggest hardware launch of the company's past 47 months, he's either:

1 - Utterly incompetent because there's no way he hasn't had hard numbers for this at the distance of a phone call or a click.

2 - Choosing his words very carefully because he doesn't want to get caught lying his ass off with false information that could get shareholders suing his ass.


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selling 1 more pro console than the ps4 pro in the same period is not "slightly better sales" TickTocki.

These mofos lie from top to bottom

We’re not talking about Phil here lol.
If it didnt sell the same or worse than PS4 Pro they wouldnt say anything

 

[arvfab]

Can't remember, but was the PS4 Pro scalped? I could walk in a GameStop and trade in my old PS4 on launch.

 

[Danja]

Let's talk about sales after December Totoki

 

[ToTTenTranz]

We’re not talking about Phil here lol.
If it didnt sell the same or worse than PS4 Pro they wouldnt say anything

We're talking about a guy who just yesterday said the PSN requirement for single player games on PC is needed for the players' safety.

So yes, you're right that we're not talking about Phil. We're talking about someone who lies to everyone's faces a lot more blatantly than Phil ever did.

 

[Kokoloko]

We're talking about someone who lies to everyone's faces a lot more blatantly than Phil ever did.

Sure lol.
How many Xbox games coming to PS. Only 4 like Phil said. They guy has contradicted himself countless times

 

[Entropi]

I was not expecting that.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Sure lol.
How many Xbox games coming to PS. Only 4 like Phil said. They guy has contradicted himself countless times

Phil's lies aren't as blatant as saying you have to link your PC single player game to an online verifier for your own safety.
It's for your safety that Sony is demanding you to use an online verifier that allows them to remotely cancel your access to the single player game.

Phil lies, but at least he isn't fucking Orwellian at doing so.

 

[quest4441]

To the people looking on the bright side, All playstation and sony does is lie and take its customers for a ride. I wont believe anything they say even if its something as ubiquitous as earth revolving around the sun.

And Please stop comparing to xbox and feel good, Scoring a little better than the class dunce should not be the bar for success

 

[Airbus]

The ps5pro is like trump official

So many gaming journalist and media against it and yet still winning

PlayStation 5 Pro Review - IGN

The PS5 Pro is an expensive but impressive console with noticeable upgrades in graphics and performance; just don’t expect it to fundamentally change the way you game.

www.ign.com

The PS5 Pro Is Great, But You Don't Need One

Don't be a fool and spend $700 on one like I did. Unless you really want to...

www.thegamer.com

PS5 Pro Review - Powerful On Paper, Ordinary In Action

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www.gamespot.com

It will be the best system when GTA6 drop

Haters gona hate