Jim Ryan On Gamepass: Microsoft has tried the first path and it did not work at all
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GamePass subscribers are trending upward though.
Also from a consumer standpoint I do not care how developers view the value proposition.
Also from a consumer standpoint I do not care how developers view the value proposition.
Phil said Game Pass didn't go up at all between Jan 2022 to October 2022 after Activision was announced (stuck at 25 millions).
Since then there was nothing besides Starfield.
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From a consumer standpoint, it's extremely important how developers view the value proposition equation. It's developers who make the games you consume and decide how much value to provide with the given product they release for sale (the game). If developers come to the conclusion, for a variety of reasons, to offer less value because the potential return will not be there then the consumer ends up being offered less, all else being equal. Less can mean a variety of things.... less scope and content, less quality, unsavory monetization models etc.
Idiocy knows no bounds.
Gamepass subs are stagnating and plateauing, mainly due to the fact that the Xbox Series consoles sell-in is declining launch aligned to Xbox One, and there is nothing that screams or points to a reversal of fortune, in the short term, or the long term.
Hardware sales matter.
Idiocy knows no bounds.
Gamepass subs are stagnating and plateauing, mainly due to the fact that the Xbox Series consoles sell-in is declining launch aligned to Xbox One, and there is nothing that screams or points to a reversal of fortune, in the short term, or the long term.
Hardware sales matter.
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Not according to Phil Spencer. Seriously, stop listening to Xbox echo chamber youtube videos. We have actual data from MS' internal documents.
I said the same years ago.
It is set to destroy de gaming industry and most publishers in the process.
Even the so called consumer value is a lie to mask the issues… because consumer will get worst games with lower quality and focused in recover the money from GAAS.
It is extreme dangerous to consumers in the long term.
It is set to destroy de gaming industry and most publishers in the process.
Even the so called consumer value is a lie to mask the issues… because consumer will get worst games with lower quality and focused in recover the money from GAAS.
It is extreme dangerous to consumers in the long term.
It's annoying tbh.
A shit ton of his tweets miss context.
Alot of the stuff his tweeting is old, but people think it's suddenly jim ryan speaking now.
He does this all the time, which makes it a headache to follow him as your thinking wait a minute is this new but then realise it's something from months ago.
I got it from a google search.
If GamePass is so terrible and benign then this guy wouldn’t feel the need to speak on it as CEO. Clearly they’re worried.
Many users here push a “business first” mentality and are often seen saying “who cares if it’s a bad deal - people will buy it anyway!”
But when it comes to Xbox it’s like all that goes out the window. Now we must play theoretics and wax poetic about value. Where was that energy when PS+ got it’s price raised after a streak of lackluster months where they offered little to nothing?
Its their main competitor's business strategy, they have to speak on it. I remember in one of my old jobs a big European competitor was breaking into our market with a business strategy our CEO hated and thought would not work- which he said loudly and repeatedly in internal e-mails. And he was right! The interloper Brits were gone within 18 months.
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There was energy here, specially yours truly. But if you're arguing against the strawman of a typical PS fanboy and casual, and they do exist, then sure they're idiots just like their fellow Xbox brethen, and PC brethen, and Nintendo brethen, and will bend over and take it raw, without barking against ills at the very least or worse yet, sugar coating it. There is also very little choice - alternatives being worse, or not acceptable due to other considerations. Voting with your wallet is not a solution to every ill and discontent with a platform - better alternatives must exist (Xbox not being that certainly).
You replied to me however, not that strawman. But if you're pissed at selective outrage and make all your commentary with defenses based on potential fanboy strawmans, all you're doing is being a partisan, in this case for Xbox, and just another idiotic fanboy. The only angle being pushed being: "stop being hypocrites". Got news for you, folks will never stop being hypocrites.
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"His" exclusives are already being "devalued" as we speak by incorporating more resources into multiplatform development, and losing that key differentiation, not just for resource savings, but also for product quality. Third party devs dream of becoming first party devs in order to just focus on one hardware and thus deliver a more polished, and higher quality product. The stagnation of third party pubs and devs, evident in poor quality is partly the result of this division of resources, as opposed to a focused one. But beyond the effects on the quality of the "exclusives" as single pieces of software, it's the hardware (and by extension, the brand) that is taking the bigger hit in the long run.... in the form of devaluation - thus the most damaging.
But how else can he show investors growth if not beyond the hardware.... so goes the excuse? Mind is too limited for good ideas revolving the box and expanding the box to new markets, and there is indeed diminishing returns on eating away marketshare from PC and Xbox. Thus taking the easy route and way out - to go outside the box is the solution to this investor pressure for growth. Nintendo has handled this pressure extremely well, in even worse positions - so there is no excuse. I think PlayStation becoming Sony's golden goose will be its own downfall. The trough must grow so all the others can feed on it and propel this company forward. That spotlight brings issues of its own.
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Are we at the same place? The energy was extremely violent when the price increase was announced. Here and everywhere. You must be blind if you didn't see it.
Victim mentality. We had many of those
By your logic we can assume Phil Spencer is clearly worried about the prospects of his own gaming division being unsustainable. And that's directly from the horse's mouth.