These quotes are from February 2022. It was just recently put out there as part of the court stuff.
Jim Ryan On Gamepass: Microsoft has tried the first path and it did not work at all
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Publisher's views on value are in conflict with gamers. Value protection for them involves preorders, special editions, in game transactions, elimination of the used market, etc.
But to me Gamepass is also a bad deal. I've spent the last 2 months playing Baldurs Gate exclusively. I don't actually want a buffet of MS-selected titles. I have my own buffet, which is my Steam backlog. They don't charge me not to play them unlike Game Pass.
But to me Gamepass is also a bad deal. I've spent the last 2 months playing Baldurs Gate exclusively. I don't actually want a buffet of MS-selected titles. I have my own buffet, which is my Steam backlog. They don't charge me not to play them unlike Game Pass.
The problem is Xbox put all of their chip in for sub service making it their main course and hoping the rest of the industry would throw out the current traditional business model of selling games and instead join in with them. That's not what happening. The rest of the game industry has been treating sub services as a freaking side gig.
No, it's all old. I remember talking about these exact quotes months ago. It came out in the Activision thread.
MS mentioned that for GP PC, where they often have free trial months in multiple places. The total GP subs count, when also counting console and mobile, is stuck at 25M since a lot of time ago. They even stopped reporting the GP subs numbers.
The number of subscribers has stagnated for well over a year now.
Well, sure... they will not need to make their games available on the service, or the games that end up on the service will reflect the real value it can afford.
Sub par games with prelaunch access for a premium price.
I'm not sure there is value for anyone in gamepass.
Anyone with half a brain knows game pass is a loss leader tactic they count on sales ,dlc , microtransactions to make money until they push out the competition get enough subscribers & raise prices
Phil also said gamepass prices wouldnt increase after the Activision acquisition closed changed his tune now though because it was clearly bullshit & all he is is a PR guy so people can say look at good guy Phil while the company he works for destroys gaming
What they're going to get is the mobile game template ads & monetization up the arse & they're all cheering for it like good little sheep
Activision are disgusting there's no world where cod wouldn't make a good profit at £60 they increased it purely to satisfy their infinite growth targets & I wish people would've called them out on it
Of course they’re worried. The publishers Are also worried.
No one wants to be a hostage to this shitty service.
It has like 200 games, most are shovelware or reqlly old bargain bin titles. Nobody realistically has the time to play all that.
Even with PS Plus all i really care about is thr classic catalogue (i would prefer if we had more ps2 games).
It's not just Phil. MS have always been con artists, always will be.
Well, not sure if it's 'a long time ago', but yes I meant since January 2022.
But they seem to be stuck there. After that they removed many $1 deals and tricks to upgrade cheaper, merged Gold into GP and rised the price to get more revenue from GP, hoping that a supposed Starfield related bump would compensate the people they may lose for doing that.