Leak PlayStation Plus Strategy - Full Presentation From April 2023 (69 Slides)

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This looks stupid to me, with so many Extra and so many Premium. Combine them, and whilst you meet the price in the middle of the two, it'll be a more attractive Tier as the sum of its former two parts for Extras and Essentials and be a little cheaper for former Premium tiers whom spend more and now have more money to say, buy a game with or buy more mtx instead. That's if you don't just adopt Extras' pricing for the new Tier and try to get even more Essentials payers to sample it. I think I'd sweep Essentials, Extra and Premium under the rug and just go PS+ and PS+ Pro, keeping the Pro branding from model names.

And that's just service features house-tidying, not even gone into revamping preorders or either adding topup subs like Crunchyroll in there or superceeding PS+ with a wider "SonyPass" covering shows, movies, animes, streaming, buying through their stores digital media like shows and having it propogate between phone/TV/PS etc.
 

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Gamepass already made its debut. Horizon was totally sacrificed to make Extra come out the gates feeling competitive in some form even while doing things different. They kneecapped its sales for sure.
 

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I mean it baffles me how they wouldn't know tht. I think it was just a test to see if a game like HFW would add subs.
Of course, why not, burn money.

Later ask insomniac to cut people off, close studios..etc 😂

Try just to try? 😂 We knew the outcome. If you so stupid just look at gamepass. But those two fuckers are clueless. One is gone, the other still there magically.
 
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we knew that before even HFW was on PS+. but of course, Playstation had to try to copy m$ :ROFLMAO: 2 morons on top manage that.. one gone, one more to go..
They needed it there to sell the highest tier and give the illusion premium first party content would be coming to that tier.

It also killed the GamePass momentum and the media talking point they needed to respond to Game Pass.

A worthy sacrifice for that moment in time.
 

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They needed it there to sell the highest tier and give the illusion premium first party content would be coming to that tier.

It also killed the GamePass momentum and the media talking point they needed to respond to Game Pass.

A worthy sacrifice for that moment in time.
Kill gamepass momentum
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Kill gamepass momentum
Cracking Up Lol GIF by HULU

Will ignore the obvious derail. Jim himself said they would respond to Game Pass in their own way. This was it. Maybe momentum wasn't the correct word but there was a mounting media narrative Game Pass was the thing in gaming and Sony needed their own Game Pass.

The revamped PS+ came out swinging and having Horizon Forbidden West fully playable absolutely destroyed the smear campaign since Xbox had no first party output in Game Pass that could compete.

It was a worthy sacrifice at the time it absolutely pulled the rug from under all the shills and industry plants narrative.
 

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Gamepass already made its debut. Horizon was totally sacrificed to make Extra come out the gates feeling competitive in some form even while doing things different. They kneecapped its sales for sure.
See, this is a good point. This also might be why it's a one time thing. They wanted a recent game to launch the re4vamp with.
 

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See, this is a good point. This also might be why it's a one time thing. They wanted a recent game to launch the re4vamp with.

On the fly strategic moves will definitely go over some people’s heads here.

Like yea featuring it on Extra kneecapped its retail launch but it also helped Extra launch stronger than it would’ve.

Extra is a bargain bin line of post mortem game releases. Both Horizon and Returnal were used to make it appealing to ps5 users.

Gamepass launched first sure but the buzz was effectively shut down once Sony launched their own competing service.
 
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I don’t get why are proudly posting stolen data here?

It’s getting ridiculous now to be honest.
Don't act like they were posting employees private data. This leak gives us a peek inside that we couldn't otherwise have (only guesses).

And the information is Alex's already spreading like wildfire, of we are too discuss it we may as well have the relevant part here... This is not like someone at ms is not combing through all of it to find possible holes, people to recruit, etc. fraudsters are looking at personal data to steal people's identity (I guess). We are not doing anything remotely like that.
 
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Wonder how the price hikes are affecting this whole plan.

Very nice presentation but doesn't mean a whole lot of consumers don't come along.
After they increased the price, I decided that I'm not going to renew once my sub is up in January 2025, and I've been subbed since January 2016. I hope others follow suit because $80 per year for essential is too expensive. I remember when it was like $50 or so for a year, then they increased it to $60 and I wasn't happy, but the monthly games made up for it. That's no longer the case after a $20 increase
 
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They're increasing the price of Essentials precisely because people are leaving, millions of them already left. Thus, in order to not lose significant revenue, and get into too much trouble with the bosses up top, much less the fickle investors, they're doing the "next best thing" to show they're in control aka squeeze more money out of fewer consumers as "the solution". Incidentally, the strategy can even go beyond just breaking even for the amount of users lost and actually show a net increase in revenue. I think with the data from this leak we can work the math out, using that snapshot in time as a starting hypothetical and the extrapolate (pre price increase - post price increase) but I won't bother with that.

Bottomline, they know they're losing users and will lose more with a price increase but they're banking on those that stay to make up for that loss (and then some).

It all stems from the fact that for real, healthy growth in subs to occur Sony needs to sell a significantly higher amount of consoles than what it's doing now, which is more or less on par, or slightly trending above PS4. PS Plus simply hit plateau with a post-Covid correction for around ~ 100 mill MAU in the PS ecosystem - there are obviously other macro-economic factors having a say although harder to correlate. Sony literally has the ultimate hook to get you in - an artificial paywall for online play. It can't be any more force fed, and coerced than that (although I guess requiring a sub to boot up the console is an extreme possibility - something even shitstain MS could try - I've seen idiots float this idea).

Anyway that is the core problem - they need to sell a significantly higher amount of consoles to gain real, sustainable growth to which a price increase for Plus is not the solution, just a greed based, stop the bleeding stop-gap, but don't let that get in the way of a business trying to squeeze more dollars out of its loyal base. That's how the incentive structure is built for corps. Corps are not anybody's friend. If you give it proper perspective, the price increase is in some ways a reflection of their failure to significantly sell more consoles than during the PS4 gen, and you're paying for this leadership mediocre performance, not them (they're merely passing you the bill). Now you can make a mountain of excuses as to why they're selling slightly more than PS4 launch aligned but in the end they're all excuses, no matter how elaborate or considerate.

Moreover Sony pigeon holed themselves into a two tier system in their own platform. When games like Genshin Impact, Fornite, Warframe, Apex,warzone, Roblox etc are free to play, the incentive structure and consumer conditioning works against the sub model based on an online-paywall artificial hook. That's what you get with a brain dead, and brain rot leadership "fast-following" the biggest loser the console market (and gaming in general cause they suck in PC as well) has ever seen aka Microsoft (just cause they subsidize their failures like no other corp doesn't disqualify them from this title, if anything it increases it exponentially by each billion down the drain).
 
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They're increasing the price of Essentials precisely because people are leaving, millions of them already left, and in order to not lose significant revenue, and get into too much trouble with the bosses up top, much less the fickle investors, they're doing the "next best thing" to show they're in control - naturally that is to squeeze more money out of fewer consumers as "the solution". Incidentally, the strategy can even go beyond just breaking even for the amount of users lost and actually show a net increase in revenue. I think with the data from this leak we can work the math out, using that snapshot in time as a starting hypothetical (pre price increase - post price increase) but I won't bother with that.

Bottomline, they know they're losing users and will lose more with a price increase but they're banking on those that stay to make up for that loss (and then some).

It all stems from the fact that for real, healthy growth in subs to occur Sony needs to sell a significantly higher amount of consoles than what it's doing now, which is more or less on par, or slightly trending above PS4. PS Plus simply hit plateau with a post-Covid correction for around ~ 100 mill MAU - there are obviously other macro-economic factors having a say although harder to correlate. Sony literally has the ultimate hook to get you in - an artificial paywall for online play. It can't be any more force fed, and coerced (although I guess requiring a sub to boot up the console is an extreme possibility - something even shitstain MS could try - I've seen idiots float this idea).

Anyway that is the core problem - they need to sell a significantly higher amount of consoles for real, sustainable growth to which a price increase for Plus is not the solution, but don't let that get in the way of a business trying to squeeze more dollars out of its loyal base - in this case, offering the same while asking for more to keep revenue stable, and if possible "increase" it for the next time they do a financial release. That's how the incentive structure is built for corps. Corps are not anybody's friend. If you give it proper perspective, the price increase is in some ways a reflection of their failure to significantly sell more consoles than during the PS4 gen, and you're paying for their mediocre performance, not them (they're merely passing you the bill). Now you can make a mountain of excuses as to why they're selling slightly more than PS4 launch aligned but in the end they're all excuses, no matter how elaborate or considerate.
While I completely agree with your point about the number of subs vs price hike.

The PS4 is one of the best selling consoles of all time... This is not like it was close to be a failure.

They're growing the user base because of the backwards compatibility, those who have ps4s were not just left behind on all the new stuff the day the ps5 was released (a bit like when you upgrade your PC new games will still work for people with older machines and you get more performance on your new rig, while some new games will gradually not be playable on the old machines). This is in part how steam became this big.
 

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PS4 is one of the best selling consoles but the final tally is still much lower than they could have gotten. And they'll face the same issue with the PS5


130 million should have been the least the PS4 sold if we are being honest.