"Microsoft wants to move Windows fully to the cloud"

[KnittedKnight]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/27/...t=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Microsoft has been increasingly moving Windows to the cloud on the commercial side with Windows 365, but the software giant also wants to do the same for consumers. In an internal “state of the business” Microsoft presentation from June 2022, Microsoft discuses building on “Windows 365 to enable a full Windows operating system streamed from the cloud to any device.”

The presentation has been revealed as part of the ongoing FTC v. Microsoft hearing, as it includes Microsoft’s overall gaming strategy and how that relates to other parts of the company’s businesses. Moving “Windows 11 increasingly to the cloud” is identified as a long-term opportunity in Microsoft’s “Modern Life” consumer space, including using “the power of the cloud and client to enable improved AI-powered services and full roaming of people’s digital experience.”
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For the PCMR out there thinking MS ain't gonna fuck with them with the cloud push... a scenario where MS has total control of the hardware and software. Nvidia will ship their cards regardless.... server blades included. Problem is obvious - no consumer choice, more control for MS, less competitive pressure. Always.

Windows is PC Gaming.

But but Linux....

Rest assured... Xbox will die first. Not too comforting however to know you're second on the chopping block. As long as fixed console hardware from Sony and Nintendo cockblock MS the transition moves further right and right. That's the only good comforting thing for PCMR.

 

[Nhomnhom]

Good, I don't use it. Move it to another dimension for all I care.

Linux Gaming is far superior already.

 

[arvfab]

Cool, will push devs to release games on Mac and Linux.

 

[John Elden Ring]

Will that help me save the 80GB the system allocates? Then if so, im all in.

 

[flaccidsnake]

Fedora 38 looking real good right now, just sayin

Valve was smart to trudge away on Proton+Linux for 10 years, and now they're reaping the rewards.

 

[Killer_Sakoman]

They plan to kill Valve too

 

[KnittedKnight]

They plan to kill Valve too

Private company for a reason. Much easier to gobble up. It's why instead of going for Valve you go for ABK. They're in MS corner (pocket if you will) push comes to shove strategic wise. Pecking order well established.

 

[Killer_Sakoman]

I think the future of Microsoft is dark. Perusing these monopolies will bring on their demise.

 

[Nhomnhom]

They plan to kill Valve too

Turns out Valve was planning to kill them for 10+ years.

Private company for a reason. Much easier to gobble up.

As if, they would've acquired them already if they could.

 

[Killer_Sakoman]

Turns out Valve was planning to kill them for 10+ years.

Looks like they finally did. Steam Deck with Steam OS was the right move to move away from Windows exclusivity.

 

[KnittedKnight]

Turns out Valve was planning to kill them for 10+ years.


As if, they would've acquired them already if they could.

How? Making a Store OS work on Linux? PC Gaming now all of the sudden gonna stand on Linux and open-source software creation? Please... that's not how it works. The base is on Windows. Windows drives PC gaming. And MS hauls PC Gaming from the depths of hell on the Xbox trojan horse.

The only way out for Valve is to become a console manufacturer akin to Nintendo/Sony. Already happening with the Steam Deck as a back up plan. But that's just a back up plan in case Daddy MS decides not to give them a rainy day out (acquisition) as well as to increase their bid price when those talks eventually come along. In case anyone hasn't noticed, the Steamdeck hasn't even begun to reach mass market appeal yet. It's gonna be an uphill battle for Valve considering their pedestrian efforts in software. For now they're trying to exploit library attachment aka consumer loyalty to the last ounce of sweat - and naturally they'll hit a wall quick. Valve by definition are the most simplest of middle-man in gaming. They take the cut and reinvest little... typical. If MS wasn't so hellbent on monopolistic control of everything they touch, it's no contest who's better for gaming between them - MS easily.

As for acquisition - the matter mostly comes down to price. Gabe nor Valve owners have any loyalty to any single PC gamer, bulk or otherwise. Gabe has a price - trust and believe. The most important issue has always been regulatory oversight (but we can see it's highly overrated and workable around the edges).

 

[catchew]

this is why i'm happy valve pushed the envelope for linux through steamOS on the steamdeck and mac is pouring resources on gaming again with metal. time to balance it out and get ms out the power high horse in the space. some of industry standards are either too costly or growing too risky for the future. even for smaller developers. the industry has been pretty interesting ngl

 

[Old Gamer]

Kind reminder: you don't actually need Windows for anything. Linux or MacOS work just as well.

 

[anonpuffs]

GABEN WILL BE OUR LORD AND SAVIOR

 

[flaccidsnake]

The weird thing is that MS is actively supporting SteamOS. Several Xbox games on Steam enabled the linux eac support. They continue to release their games on Steam (and presumably include it in their "Xbox ecosystem"). Also, MS could get really evil with their APIs to complicate Proton compatibility. So far there's no indication of anything but solid support. It's unclear if/how MS intends to compete or blunt Valve's moves.

 

[Old Gamer]

The weird thing is that MS is actively supporting SteamOS. Several Xbox games on Steam enabled the linux eac support. They continue to release their games on Steam (and presumably include it in their "Xbox ecosystem"). Also, MS could get really evil with their APIs to complicate Proton compatibility. So far there's no indication of anything but solid support. It's unclear if/how MS intends to compete or blunt Valve's moves.

Still at the "Embrace" stage. You'll see.

 

[Nhomnhom]

How? Making a Store OS work on Linux? PC Gaming now all of the sudden gonna stand on Linux and open-source software creation? Please... that's not how it works. The base is on Windows. Windows drives PC gaming. And MS hauls PC Gaming from the depths of hell on the Xbox trojan horse.

The only way out for Valve is to become a console manufacturer akin to Nintendo/Sony. Already happening with the Steam Deck as a back up plan. But that's just a back up plan in case Daddy MS decides not to give them a rainy day out (acquisition) as well as to increase their bid price when those talks eventually come along. In case anyone hasn't noticed, the Steamdeck hasn't even begun to reach mass market appeal yet. It's gonna be an uphill battle for Valve considering their pedestrian efforts in software. For now they're trying to exploit library attachment aka consumer loyalty to the last ounce of sweat - and naturally they'll hit a wall quick. Valve by definition are the most simplest of middle-man in gaming. They take the cut and reinvest little... typical. If MS wasn't so hellbent on monopolistic control of everything they touch, it's no contest who's better for gaming between them - MS easily.

As for acquisition - the matter mostly comes down to price. Gabe nor Valve owners have any loyalty to any single PC gamer, bulk or otherwise. Gabe has a price - trust and believe. The most important issue has always been regulatory oversight (but we can see it's highly overrated and workable around the edges).

PC gaming is more tied to Steam now than Windows as shown by the Steam Deck success. All it takes is a single failed transition from MS and Linux will be there ready welcome those people (and once it gets going it's unstoppable).

With how shit Windows is it's only a matter of time and open software always wins in the end anyway.

Looks like they finally did. Steam Deck with Steam OS was the right move to move away from Windows exclusivity.

That is only the begging, Valve haven't even started to show their hand yet.

 

[flaccidsnake]

Still at the "Embrace" stage. You'll see.

It's kind of hard to see how they "extend"/ruin it that way tbh. Rather than embracing, imo the obvious thing would be to compete by making a decent handheld/gamepad UI on Windows. Warzone remains one of the biggest online games not to support Proton in their anticheat. After the acquisition, would MS nudge the CoD team to enable it as other Xbox studios have done, or use it as leverage for Windows on handhelds?

 

[KnittedKnight]

PC gaming is more tied to Steam now than Windows as shown by the Steam Deck success. All it takes is a single failed transition from MS and Linux will be there ready welcome those people (and once it gets going it's unstoppable).

I disagree. All hardware needs an OS that provides unanimity and supported by a single entity to keep pace with progress. Hence, why Windows, out of many other reasons, including MS's dirty bag of tricks relegated Linux to a fart in the wind.

The argument would be more appealing if we're talking Mac and X OS, but there is a reason Apple got curbstomped too. And MS is not going to force a transition without many prerequisites being in place (so as not to leave a nasty gaping hole ready to be exploited opportunistically by anyone - they're not that stupid). The transition will be gradual. Thus they're thinking about how to do it and working towards this goal, bit by bit. As you can see, they don't just kill Xbox outright.

Those investing on MS dominated or dependent platforms (PC, Valve and Xbox) can't say they weren't warned. At least for the hardcore. We know the masses of sheep can't either see it coming or care.

 

[Nhomnhom]

I disagree. All hardware needs an OS that provides unanimity and supported by a single entity to keep pace with progress. Hence, why Windows, out of many other reasons, including MS's dirty bag of tricks relegated Linux to a fart in the wind.

The argument would be more appealing if we're talking Mac and iOS, but there is a reason Apple got curbstomped too. And MS is not going to force a transition without many prerequisites being in place (so as not to leave a nasty gaping whole ready to be exploited opportunistically by anyone - they're not that stupid). The transition will be gradual. Thus they're thinking about how to do it and working towards this goal, bit by bit. As you can see, they don't just kill Xbox outright.

Those investing on MS dominated or dependent platforms (PC, Valve and Xbox) can't say they weren't warned. At least for the hardcore. We know the masses of sheep can't either see it coming or care.

Linux already beat Windows everywhere (embedded systems, servers, containers, phones, tablets) personal computing is the exception.

Apple is also doing great for expensive hardware tied to a single manufacturer.

All MS has is momentum created decades ago and a terrible product.